tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post7383183077867080940..comments2024-03-28T05:22:10.255-07:00Comments on Broadsword by Ajai Shukla - Strategy. Economics. Defence.: “We want to be India’s most trusted long-term supplier of technology”Broadswordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13076780076240598482noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-28124211111309624322012-07-28T21:33:49.459-07:002012-07-28T21:33:49.459-07:00Let us make a deal - we Indians write all software...Let us make a deal - we Indians write all software for all defense systems that are shared by India and the US, and the source code remains with India. Then only proceed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-1151570650863233562012-07-28T05:26:33.186-07:002012-07-28T05:26:33.186-07:00A test can be if they part with image intensifier ...A test can be if they part with image intensifier technology that goes in making the gen 3 omni7/8 devices with us army and the envg in use with us socomAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-75565861587363020842012-07-27T11:14:22.014-07:002012-07-27T11:14:22.014-07:00Anon @ 23:57
You are right about that. How many t...Anon @ 23:57<br /><br />You are right about that. How many technology transfers but none of them was useful in creating 90 KN thrust engine. Okay we could leave that, because engine may be the most critical one, but even with GE engine,still LCA didn't get FOC.<br /> For Kaveri engine again we are getting assistance from France. That is something to think about.sentshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07792930209367688998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-28425545776430566642012-07-27T10:52:26.460-07:002012-07-27T10:52:26.460-07:00SherKhan@02:17
So no one have benifited from US T...SherKhan@02:17<br /><br />So no one have benifited from US Technical Knowledge Sharing.... I take you for your word. But, then there is no evidence that India has benifited from "Technical Knowledge Sharing" by Russians or French. Today, we are still not able to make a Jet engine for our LCA, even after assembling several for our previously made planes. We are still ironing out issues with our Tejas, Arjun, etc. We have not yet been able to make the engine or the gun for Arjun. We have to buy those from our traditional Technology Knowledge Sharing partners. The only benefit of tech transfer is that you can make illegal copies like China would do and probably sell to other countries who do not care about that kind of violations. IF there was a real benefit, we would have been making a lot more at home by now, but unfortunately we are still dependent on others who sell us what we need in the name of technology transfer. IT's not the technology that needs to be shared, it's how that technology was developed that the recepient should know prior to attempting to make one on their own. No one has held our hand, and probably no one ever will. If we want to develop procducts on our own terms, we will have to do it the hard way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-23033998678684938072012-07-27T06:14:10.985-07:002012-07-27T06:14:10.985-07:00Guys can anyone of you guess what the duo are havi...Guys can anyone of you guess what the duo are having? I mean what's served on the plates? LOL!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-64965531076493748532012-07-26T13:47:08.996-07:002012-07-26T13:47:08.996-07:00Is there a country that has benefitted from US tec...Is there a country that has benefitted from US technological knowledge sharing and ending up standing on its own feet? <br /><br />There is not a single country!<br /><br />What normally happens is that the country ends up becoming more and more dependent on US and then US holds back key technology, such as source codes....> examples, Canada, Australia and UK...aka F18/F35, etc...SherKhannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-3858935781459886302012-07-26T11:27:16.975-07:002012-07-26T11:27:16.975-07:00sents@10:35
Why are we so eager to receive tech t...sents@10:35<br /><br />Why are we so eager to receive tech transfer? We have done that for a few decades now. I see no evidence of our technical skills being improved by tech transfer. We have yet to buid a jet engine, for the LCA, Tank engine, tank gun, you name it. We have done tech transfers for several decades. All it does is teach us how to assemble various items, but nothing about how and why of any product. The only way you learn to develop one is to go through an LCA type project. That's the only way you will know how the product development works. If tech transfer worked, the LCA would have been inducted in numbers by now. Only thing we can do with Tech Transfer is reverse engineer a product and build illegal copies of it (like China). But, that would not teach us anything when it comes to why certain designs elements that were adopted and what the original designer tried before they got to the final product. There are no easy options if one is trying to get the technical know-how. I wish there was an easier way, but so far I have only known of one, and that is with a lot of blood, sweat, toil and tears.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-37856498390429608762012-07-25T21:58:05.299-07:002012-07-25T21:58:05.299-07:00Shukla,
At the end of all your recent blog pieces ...Shukla,<br />At the end of all your recent blog pieces you should have added one more line:<br />"this is an advertisement"...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-81181243904540091492012-07-25T15:01:20.869-07:002012-07-25T15:01:20.869-07:00US seems to be coming forward now on the right foo...US seems to be coming forward now on the right foot wrt India. Carter must be intelligent enough but someone else from US should not backtrack now with another statement just to appease China and/or Pakistan.<br /><br />Russia, Israel and France are already the dependable suppliers and cooperators of India since long. US wants and needs to be included in this list, and they should now be given a chance. Based on its own priorities, India shall preferably cooperate firstly with the US in the fields of the highest technologies only, as it may be a testimony to the generation of the real mutual trust.Mr. RAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-42725446446842368852012-07-25T06:40:05.810-07:002012-07-25T06:40:05.810-07:00So all this co-operation seems to focused on remov...So all this co-operation seems to focused on removing the offset restrictions and the foreign ownership limit. <br /><br />Perhaps the US can signal their commitment by an equivalent measure before India does anything.rohannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-21525474728145178702012-07-24T22:05:35.251-07:002012-07-24T22:05:35.251-07:00Anon @ 20:22
Even i don't think any country w...Anon @ 20:22<br /><br />Even i don't think any country will sell their latest version. Whatever USA is offering to India will be 90% similar to what they use.<br />My point is with USA, we will be only an end-user, they will never give access to their technology, even for their older versions. Technology transfer is something USA blocks even to Britain, so where will we stand? We can never develop our own(indigenous) product.<br />But we will get what we pay for, with USA, without any delays and the quality of the product will be great.sentshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07792930209367688998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-36404053184754054192012-07-24T08:16:54.111-07:002012-07-24T08:16:54.111-07:00Think, what carter wants is a open market in defen...Think, what carter wants is a open market in defense which is currently pegged at 26% (FDI)... This means that firms which have long history of making defense products and billions of dollar at their disposal would enter India and kill the Indian defense industry. There is no secret to it. He wants LSA, and 2 other agreements which would make India and Non NATO ally. Bear in mind, that defense products is usually used a tool in establishing foreign relations. China will not attach India, India will not attack Pakistan for a foreseeable future. If India wants to contain China independently..am sure the recent developments regarding the far east nations has already given jibes in china administration. China cannot afford to make enemies everywhere. India MUST NOT comply to these USA proposals and just stay the course.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-77857522056624846412012-07-24T07:52:32.310-07:002012-07-24T07:52:32.310-07:00Sent@10:09
Americans may not give as much as Russ...Sent@10:09<br /><br />Americans may not give as much as Russians or French, but there are two things wrong with this argument:<br /><br />1) Assumptions is Russians and the French have given their A grade stuff to the Indians without any preconditions (every contract has some per-conditions)<br /><br />2) Not stating that US has a lot more high tech then Russians and the French. The US has been a technology leader, the Russians and the French are always playing catch-up. So if the US sells us their older version, it's likely to be on-par or superior to what we can get through any other suppliers. <br />The only down-side I see with the US is the cost. But then again, there contract costs do not change half-way during the manufacturing or delivery phase and their timelines are probably quicker and more likely to be on schedule then our traditional suppliers. In the end if you get the contract terms right, then with the US you will get what you paid for.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-66811787150953977262012-07-24T05:50:26.851-07:002012-07-24T05:50:26.851-07:00Now america wants india to pit against chine which...Now america wants india to pit against chine which it is not able to doPrabhuGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15049917032643360126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-54113099050175098562012-07-24T00:58:12.527-07:002012-07-24T00:58:12.527-07:00The indian R&D establishment must be quietly f...The indian R&D establishment must be quietly fuming at guy just as they did back during indo-US nuke deal.<br /><br />This Cartor guy talks so grand as if india is going to get it all for free.<br /><br />But it's a nice speech. Just like Obama, all his subordinates are good orators too.NaKehKeLunganoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-11338008984111644682012-07-23T21:39:10.737-07:002012-07-23T21:39:10.737-07:00I doubt whether they will transfer technolgy as mu...I doubt whether they will transfer technolgy as much as Russia or France, still it is a very good start. Atleast if they give critical equipments eithout signing CISMOA or other end-user agreements, it will be very useful.sentshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07792930209367688998noreply@blogger.com