tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post6346487669000844904..comments2024-03-28T05:22:10.255-07:00Comments on Broadsword by Ajai Shukla - Strategy. Economics. Defence.: Second submarine line for Mazagon DockBroadswordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13076780076240598482noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-33636052856238445402010-08-31T04:12:33.163-07:002010-08-31T04:12:33.163-07:00it's high time that the govt allows constructi...it's high time that the govt allows construction at both mazagaon and L&T. With the Chinese at our doorsteps, even 30 subs will not suffice by 2020. Let every shipyard start mass production of ships and subs, we are already late.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-39305799785146839692010-08-31T00:33:41.281-07:002010-08-31T00:33:41.281-07:00Ha ha
GOI at its best. This happens when you make ...Ha ha<br />GOI at its best. This happens when you make a tea stall wala defense minister.<br />I strongly suggest that make Mayawati or lalu or Mamta Banerji our defense minister.<br />Stupid never think of making a new ShipyardShailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12918926040025880201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-58976118949321844912010-08-30T23:08:29.029-07:002010-08-30T23:08:29.029-07:00Ajaiji, we should rise the question of buying 3 of...Ajaiji, we should rise the question of buying 3 of the self (direct) submarines from Germany/France to atleast meet the immediate needs. May be U-214. <br /><br />With yesterday's accident of a HDW 209, the submarine arm shrunk more.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-20360765214874303562010-08-30T22:46:23.247-07:002010-08-30T22:46:23.247-07:00Ah! Let's see the logic (or lack of it)..
&qu...Ah! Let's see the logic (or lack of it)..<br /><br />"MDL’s hull fabrication shop — which cuts steel for the hull, rolls it, fabricates hull segments and then welds them together into a complete hull — will be sitting idle from 2012, and ready to be diverted to Project 75I."<br /><br />What it the probability of success that MDL will have delivered all Scorpene hulls as per the revised schedule? If they have done finite resource scheduling (including MoC shipments) to come up with the revised plan then great else it is all just wishful thinking.<br /><br />"The Department of Defence Production also points out that Project 75I cannot begin for another five years."<br /><br />Only with respect to overseas construction. The timeline would be much shorter for L&T. Heck, if MoD is so worried about timelines what stops them from offering a risk-reward clause to L&T. But no, they'd rather wait for 5 years discussing contracts with foreigners than breeding Indian expertise!!<br /><br />"At least 12-24 months are needed for a Cabinet sanction for building the first two Project 75I submarines abroad. Selecting a foreign shipyard as collaborator for Project 75I will take another 24-36 months and then one year for price negotiations."<br /><br />As they say in engineering, measure with a micrometer, mark with a chalk and cut with an axe. Wow!!<br /><br />"Private sector shipbuilder Larsen & Toubro finds the MoD’s decision to patronise Mazagon Dock inexplicable."<br /><br />Guys, you are not alone in your bewilderment.<br /><br />"L&T sources say the company was given to understand that they would participate in Project 75I as the second submarine line. Now, L&T’s experience and infrastructure would lie idle."<br /><br />Much more than utilisation and RoI, it will be genuine pvt sector interest in securing the nation that will receive a severe setback. Let one person stand up and say which PSU was going to construct nuclear plants if L&T was not interested?!! These guys spent nearly a generation in gearing up for these type of projects, demonstrated it with Arihant, and now MoD kisses them goodbye and looks for phirangs. <br /><br />What a shame and such a waste!<br /><br />- ManneMannenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-10944667544288810642010-08-30T20:45:26.411-07:002010-08-30T20:45:26.411-07:00If it will take 5 years to finalize the agreement...If it will take 5 years to finalize the agreement then it wont be a parallel production line but would be built after Scorpenes. Also it does nothing to resolve the immediate sub fleet crisis.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-69347039800412344612010-08-30T18:52:20.338-07:002010-08-30T18:52:20.338-07:00No need to blame Mazagaon dock if they are capable...No need to blame Mazagaon dock if they are capable of building subs at faster rate. But let the private industry also build two subs (not necessarily the first two) of the P75I series and then when the next Generation of Indigenous subs start production just after that, let the private industry produce upto 6 subs and the remaining 6 be built by Mazagon. Again we will be short by 6 subs to reach the target of 30 subs. So there is space for everyone both public as well as private industry. I think the L&T can start working on the P75I right now itself and when the Scorpene is finished the Mazagaon dock build the remaining four. Also after finishing the first two let L&T go and commence the production of the Indigenous subs. All six of them and Mazagaon dock starts it after completing the remaining four of the P75I subs. The remaining six can be jointly build by MD and L&T with further improvements to the Indegenous subs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-5162504908197554762010-08-30T18:05:17.300-07:002010-08-30T18:05:17.300-07:00Another CWG in making. Good luck India!Another CWG in making. Good luck India!AKhttp://ak47.yahoo.comnoreply@blogger.com