tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post5953436953108771172..comments2024-03-28T05:22:10.255-07:00Comments on Broadsword by Ajai Shukla - Strategy. Economics. Defence.: What “Make in India”? MoD penalises Tata Power (SED) for using indigenous partsBroadswordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13076780076240598482noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-65977905493758145832021-10-06T17:35:31.096-07:002021-10-06T17:35:31.096-07:00This is to provide you with information that the c...This is to provide you with information that the current indigenous system called Drishti for RVR measurement at airports being deployed is not a recent invention by NAL.<br /><br />This system has been in existence as AVRA and in use at civil and military airports such as Delhi, Bangalore, Chennai, Goa from 1988 onwards in stages. Drishti is a rebranding and at the most can be termed an upgrade of an existing system wherein the core continues to be the original design.<br />The original indigenously developed user interface software has been replaced by non-indigenous software namely LabView.<br /><br />The completely indigenous system was called AVRA and the scientist from NAL who designed and developed it was Dr. J. P. Pichamuthu.<br /><br />Attached is an article on the AVRA and the inventor Dr. J P Pichamuthu who is also the first Asian to receive the United Nations- WMO Vilho Vaisala Award.<br /><br />https://www.facebook.com/231609536929701/posts/4282164581874156/<br />Sunil Pichamuthuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04130797290939817812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-65831307837995198092018-03-04T02:46:25.677-08:002018-03-04T02:46:25.677-08:00Tata Power knows that a particular qualified RVR s...Tata Power knows that a particular qualified RVR system was contracted for supply and it chose to supply cheap alternative knowing fully well such things are not possible in defence contracts without proper evaluation & qualification. If the NAL system was fully qualified then IAF would have originally specified in the contract.This is pure greediness to make profit and to the outside world they misrepresent the case using political mantra "Make in India".<br /><br />The babus of MOD & Service Chiefs now feel that dealing with DPSU s were much easier as DPSUs never compromise on quality procedures to make some extra buck.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-30390476849906922352017-05-13T02:54:22.027-07:002017-05-13T02:54:22.027-07:00The contract has to be followed unless both partie...The contract has to be followed unless both parties agree to an amendment. There is no idealism involved here. The contract would either specify the make of the components and a particular level of performance. If only performance is specified than the vendor has the freedom to choose the make of the component.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06146339024285145022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-3443261693360858332017-05-11T13:43:47.076-07:002017-05-11T13:43:47.076-07:00Well if Tata's are really wanting to give an G...Well if Tata's are really wanting to give an Govt product from NAL instead of a Forign one and MoD finance is creating problems they should report this to CAG. How can a Mod object to a Govt item being supplies unless the Australian is bribing them ...<br />In that case let CBI take over . Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-56658569005920966972017-05-11T13:35:36.483-07:002017-05-11T13:35:36.483-07:00Let me first give out information asked.
The MAF...Let me first give out information asked. <br /><br />The MAFI contract was won by Tata Power SED as a Buy (Global) bid. RFP came out in 2009 and order was placed in March 2012 while Court Case by Italian company Selex challenging the award to a Indian company was still on in Delhi High Court. <br /><br />Indian content of MAFI project is over 60% and under DPP 2016 it could be classified as IDDM project. Systems Integration and Design is indigenous so it is possible to change sub systems ie a navigatinal aid RVR. <br /><br />When SED bid this project in 2009 no indigenous RVR was avaiable and so was the status in 2012. When the need to replace RVR was felt, Tata Power SED and IAF jointly agreed after due deligence to take a proven Indian RVR that has recently become available. This item is developed and manufechred by Govt entity NAL and meets all possible definitions of "Make in India" . It is operational in AAI's few large International Airports and mets all quality norms. <br /><br />Under MoD system a Forign OEM works with self certification but an Indian vendor needs approvals of users in this case IAF. This is a Buy ( Global) tender where if a foreigner had won they would be on self certification but an Indian company is not. To meet IAF mordenisation time line, while using a Made in India RVR ( from a Govt entity) and order amendment process was requested thru IAF. Tata Power SED also agreed not to invoice for RVR till order amendment was approved by MOD. We never anticipated that all payments will be denied. <br /><br />If we were a Forign company with LC probably this situation would not have happened. It is bizarre that we are at the receiving end of procedures in MoD that distrusts Indian vendors and "Make in India" in Defence is a central recurring theme. <br /><br />Let me now deal with some of the comments in this blog on quality, additional profit and change process. <br /><br /> - Are you implying that CSIR on 26th Jan put out a product on Rajpath that was a fake or not meeting quality norms? <br /><br />- Although we are loosing money due to this change to a quality Indian product ( It is a new product hence economics of scale are against us ) and MoD finance is penalising us even more but in general whom will you like to benifit an Indian company or a foreigner? <br /><br />- Sir the Change process we need adopt is mind set. In China or Russia a high tech product successfully introduced and displayed in May Day parade or equivalent will be mandated for all Govt and Private procurements and imports made impossible? <br /><br />As requested earlier " Make in India " also needs procedural change and a mindset change. <br /><br />I am glad that story is public and hope lessons learnt will be implemented for India to benifit. <br /><br />Regards <br /><br />Rahul Chaudhry <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /> Order amendments takes a long time in MoD. IAF needed their bases taking a pragmatic routeRahul Chaudhryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04006028722416817197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-82656608676519476372017-05-10T23:24:38.566-07:002017-05-10T23:24:38.566-07:00Rather than crying gung ho, isn't this a simpl...Rather than crying gung ho, isn't this a simple case of deviating from the agreed terms of delivery?<br />If the agreement was made based on certain component specifications, it should have been followed. And though TATAs are big names in Indian manufacturing sector, they should not take the specification for granted, and change things suo moto (for profits?).Prashnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-31698210645375662122017-05-10T15:23:02.535-07:002017-05-10T15:23:02.535-07:00Its a simple case of not following the Change requ...Its a simple case of not following the Change request process. <br /><br />Yes dealing with any finance is always difficult if process is not followedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-3352646620930065792017-05-10T05:28:25.952-07:002017-05-10T05:28:25.952-07:00bribe taken... Parrikar... and MoD babus... bribe ...bribe taken... Parrikar... and MoD babus... bribe paid by... MTECH AustrailiaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-64347227410218443232017-05-10T01:08:39.981-07:002017-05-10T01:08:39.981-07:00Case seems to be presented wrongly here. Hardly an...Case seems to be presented wrongly here. Hardly anything to do with 'Make in India'. If the initial contract was to have RVR from Australian MTECH, as seems to me thorough this initial reading, it can not be replaced by any other without first seeking sanction. Or, can it? We are changing the whole pitch by presenting it as it suits us. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-42395865762709837642017-05-09T23:47:33.169-07:002017-05-09T23:47:33.169-07:00Inspite of all "make in india" hype, we ...Inspite of all "make in india" hype, we get to see the core technologies is NOT available in this country. No company in India has any core technologies and hence bank on foreign comapanies, who are far ahead.<br />We are stll working on "build to print" model and call them indigenous.<br />What is the Indigenous content IN TPSED Project? Why was the Australian firm contacted, when available in India?<br />Mr Shukla, projected the issue, without giving details.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-70958222950346490952017-05-09T23:05:00.445-07:002017-05-09T23:05:00.445-07:00Treachery is not just killing an Army-men it is al...Treachery is not just killing an Army-men it is also about pulling the nation down for self-interest...don't need traitors in Kashmir ..do we ??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-10741235634465585602017-05-09T20:17:20.215-07:002017-05-09T20:17:20.215-07:00Very disappointing. Instead of being rewarded for ...Very disappointing. Instead of being rewarded for indigenization companies are being punished. Unless systems are in place to encourage indigenization such actions will prevent others from doing any effort for indigenization. Make it a case study and learn from it and insert a clause where such indigenization is rewarded with at least no decrease in price. That will help faster indigenization. Ensure quality checks are in place. Ashok Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01718939182224116966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-14030491286013472982017-05-09T10:40:40.088-07:002017-05-09T10:40:40.088-07:00Ha, kill a good company. Let us see then who foll...Ha, kill a good company. Let us see then who follows to "Make in India" ... perhaps a fit case for investigation into MoD finances obstruction and imposing interest to be paid by the Babus including Defense Secretary.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-4787960964775903392017-05-09T10:37:48.602-07:002017-05-09T10:37:48.602-07:00Dear Ajai,
Thanks for bring out this story in ope...Dear Ajai, <br />Thanks for bring out this story in open. However as already sent earlier, <br />having taken a “Make in India” In-Service NAV AID with AAI (Airport Authority of India), designed & produced by National Aerospace Laboratory (NAL) that was displayed as a proud achievement of CISR in the Republic Day Parade, we never anticipated paying such a high price in tens of Crs with funds stuck. This unfortunate situation has happened despite highest levels in IAF and MoD Acquisition Wing trying to find a solution but it seems “MoD Procedures” override. For the greater Good and in the Interest of “Make in India” urge Govt of India & MoD to issue a simple change in their procedures – If a suitable “Make in India” Sub System is technically found suitable by the Services/ End User, all other procedure will deemed to be completed for payment purpose and within 28 days an appropriate contract amendment will be issued by the contracting authority. <br /><br />regards<br /><br />Rahul Chaudhry CEO Tata Power SEDRahul Chaudhryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04006028722416817197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-64719311851669110462017-05-09T09:11:09.151-07:002017-05-09T09:11:09.151-07:00Typical bumbling MoD ! TATA needs to lodge a prot...Typical bumbling MoD ! TATA needs to lodge a protest with Raksha Mantri and pradhan Mantri Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-28389559503321432042017-05-09T07:06:55.897-07:002017-05-09T07:06:55.897-07:00No wonder foreign firms are reluctant to do busine...No wonder foreign firms are reluctant to do business with Govt when they learn how baboos behave with Indian Cos. No one to tame these baboos. Govt only doing publicity.sudhirvirulkar@gmail.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16754716545652199648noreply@blogger.com