tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post4919719725360436401..comments2024-03-23T09:25:42.029-07:00Comments on Broadsword by Ajai Shukla - Strategy. Economics. Defence.: “Terror boat”: Questions lingerBroadswordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13076780076240598482noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-2319448347656615032015-01-07T05:33:22.316-08:002015-01-07T05:33:22.316-08:00Good article Shukla.
A few points:
01. Does it tak...Good article Shukla.<br />A few points:<br />01. Does it take a Coast Guard Cutter 1 hour of chasing a small FV which at the best may hit 11 to 12 knots? <br />02. Surprising that no videographing of the chase has been given which could have shown the exact GPS position at various times during the chase.<br />03. At 197 nautical miles from the coast seems a bit contrived after a 1 hour chase. Bcoz 200 nautical miles from the Base Line means we are of the Exclusive Economic Zone. <br />04. The boat is on fire only on the deck and the superstructure house. No breach in the hull?? No fire below deck? Looks like some oil fire on deck.<br />05. Do hard core Islamist terrosrists prefer a fiery burning death which is anathema to them?<br />06. How come the Dornier chasing the boat in the daytime did not zoom down to get the FV's name and other identification marks? How come despite the Dornier buzzing the boat, she still continued on her voyage unperturbed and entered Indian waters?<br /><br />Looks like the Coast Guard has a bucketful of questions to be answered...<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-5659410226702329002015-01-06T09:03:51.504-08:002015-01-06T09:03:51.504-08:00The biggest casualty in war is - TRUTH.The biggest casualty in war is - TRUTH.FALCONhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16405329783216022213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-69470433150234706522015-01-05T20:22:59.319-08:002015-01-05T20:22:59.319-08:00The diesel and petrol rates in India are cheaper t...The diesel and petrol rates in India are cheaper than Pakistan. Check the current rates if you don't know. You want me to believe that they were smuggling to make a loss? How funny? <br /><br />And have you seen their route on maps? They were going to another place in Pakistan from Karachi - through Gujarat coast?Riturajnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-10952282054256046952015-01-05T15:08:22.778-08:002015-01-05T15:08:22.778-08:00Ajay, you were brilliant on Thappar's show. Th...Ajay, you were brilliant on Thappar's show. There are so many gaping holes that BJP folks are now resorting to calling all doubters 'agents of Pakistan'. You summed it up well' BJP is doing what happens in Pakistan!". Keep up the good workAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00266188621025083599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-46103990759785082332015-01-05T14:21:29.196-08:002015-01-05T14:21:29.196-08:00Rather this than Mumbai-2...they could've just...Rather this than Mumbai-2...they could've just surrendered if they were innocent... Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-67314161091187025552015-01-05T13:52:30.195-08:002015-01-05T13:52:30.195-08:00tdblog@yahoo.com:
Every mysterious situation and ...tdblog@yahoo.com:<br /><br />Every mysterious situation and especially handled by IB will appear fishy or questionable. Thats cause they dont need to answer to mango people like us. But elementary stuffs ain't that difficult to analyse.<br /><br />Below summary sums it all:<br />1. If truly a fishing boat...there was no need to blow itself up,<br />2. If truly a fishing boat...there is no need to than create a one hour chase with coast guard of either country,<br />3. In the middle of a getting caught scenario...there is again no need to panic...they cud have dropped off all their guns and be seen as simple fishermen...but no you cannot afford that...cause you were terrorist with deeper links...and getting caught cud mean not only information transfer by a living terrorist but also proofs of what types of radio instrument...explosive grade...and manufacturers of all sorts of offensive items...also food packs will be traced back to country of origin,<br />4. Getting caught would have been one more of many embarrasing moments for a master of liars country Pakistan, if they can lie to the world about Osama Bin Laden...this petty four terrorist meant nothing to that country...not even counted as collateral damage...and for such a country their is always another time...so sink the ship and die all in the name of allah,<br />5. And above all Pakistan's so quick reaction as to first deny that there was a boat which had sailed from their country...to another tracing it down to a drug smuggling mafia...shows how desperate they were to cover the whole incident,<br />6. Pakistan as a country is least interested in taking any legitimate step...so such quick reaction of floating multiple absolutely not clear stories abt that boat...in the hope that something will catch the fancy and they will be able to save themselves another embarrassment was the biggest mistake by them...which now makes it clear in the so called dark intelligence network world if not in a court of law...as to who's guilty.<br />Liars den is what Pakistan is!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-24376688939680549462015-01-05T12:30:52.802-08:002015-01-05T12:30:52.802-08:00How did the "retired admiral" know for a...How did the "retired admiral" know for a fact that there were no weapons on board that ship that could have triggered the fire and the explosion? Is he endowed with some divine power to mentally gauge absence of existence of weapons on a fishing boat in deep sea while he sits on land? Being retired, he is not likely to be privy to real-time intel, so the question really is why create more horse-sh!t and call it analysis based on the wild-ass guesses of some retired Admiral? The entire blog post is based on extremely tenuous reason that can be torn apart quite easily -- especially when it is clear that the author has based all this nonsense based on sheer guessing and hearsay, since there is absolutely no reliable information on what actually happened in the public domain.<br /><br />The only thing that seems reasonable to say at this time is that there is not much co-ordination between the Coast Guard and the Navy and perhaps that can be improved. Everything else is just bollocks based on no data or evidence.Paul Chinnapudukunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-77381798326767183272015-01-05T12:13:00.894-08:002015-01-05T12:13:00.894-08:00How does Mr. Shukla know it is a 'fishing'...How does Mr. Shukla know it is a 'fishing' boat? It is a BOAT.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15879811738256983563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-8289997868094513782015-01-05T09:18:42.242-08:002015-01-05T09:18:42.242-08:00Mr. Shukla is wrong.
Enforcement of laws and regu...Mr. Shukla is wrong.<br /><br />Enforcement of laws and regulations of the coastal State<br /><br />1. The coastal State may, in the exercise of its sovereign rights to explore, exploit, conserve and manage the living resources <b>in the exclusive economic zone, take such measures, including boarding, inspection, arrest and judicial proceedings, as may be necessary to ensure compliance with the laws and regulations adopted by it in conformity with this Convention.</b><br /><br />http://www.un.org/depts/los/convention_agreements/texts/unclos/part5.htmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-55819422113213687882015-01-05T09:12:15.845-08:002015-01-05T09:12:15.845-08:00Col Ajay Shukla's analysis finds this to be on...Col Ajay Shukla's analysis finds this to be only a Pakistani smuggling boat. But Pakistan denies it was theirs. <br /><br />Surprising we are still not able to understand risks present and responsibilities necessary to defend against a determined & proven sponsor of terrorism.<br /><br />Wonder how the same people will paint our National Security agencies if another 26/11 happens.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-30467234274735773502015-01-05T08:50:10.791-08:002015-01-05T08:50:10.791-08:00Who the f*ck cares? Pakistanis coming to India fo...Who the f*ck cares? Pakistanis coming to India for either smuggling purposes or outright terrorist purposes, deserve to go down in flames.<br /><br />You do realize, that introducing drugs into India is also part of their comprehensive war? The same way introducing counterfeit currency is as well.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-85276939886055441862015-01-05T06:43:00.855-08:002015-01-05T06:43:00.855-08:00Had Ajmal Kasab not caught alive, even the 26/11 e...Had Ajmal Kasab not caught alive, even the 26/11 events could have smelt fishy. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-72011381771024200382015-01-05T02:38:10.070-08:002015-01-05T02:38:10.070-08:00Could the naval sources also care to explain since...Could the naval sources also care to explain since when did bringing in explosives across the sea in fishing boats get classified as "low-level smuggling"? Where were they when Mumbai '93 happened -isn't it the same MO?<br /><br />Competing bureaucracies have an axe to grind and that is par for the course, but surprised that they managed to somehow convince a reporter of your credentials that it was worthy to fling the axe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-61464760080738063462015-01-04T23:41:01.636-08:002015-01-04T23:41:01.636-08:00Wow!! How the mighty fall, trying to peddle the am...Wow!! How the mighty fall, trying to peddle the aman-ki-asha line. <br /><br />Dear Genius,<br /><br />One discrepancy in the above story (-though not the govt's). .<br /><br />Other than the fire, the boat's structure is intact and is still afloat.. The boat is BURNING vigourously. If the coast-guard would have fired upon it there are 2 ways. One is by rifle or small caliber -to kill people aboard, Or by using cannon or large caliber.<br /><br />If small caliber arms were used, then there would'nt be a fire. The boat's occupants might be killed or injured. When large caliber weapons like cannons are used, the boat would have simply splintered, disintegrated apart in many pieces. If there were munitions on board they would have blown up in sympathetic detonation. Relevant here is that if that tiny boat had been fired upon by the CG, there would simply be no free standing fire as shown.<br /><br />IMHO the report given out by our Coast gaurd and the defence minister are true. My dad used to make fire extinguishers of various kinds and supply to govt. bodies - and I've seen fires caused by munitions being set on fire ( to test the extinguishers) Gelatin, RDX etc burn freely when set on fire. Gun-powder does explode but not with the same spontaneity as when detonated. The most common explosive used by terror groups are bags/packages of ammonium-nitrate soaked in diesel.<br /><br />This ammonium-nitrate + diesel combo would burn vigorously - like the fire engulfing the boat shown in the picture. So to my mind, the occupants of the boat did carry some explosives and also some munitions containing gun-powder which exploded when the heat spread.<br /><br />Of course our political morons would do their mindless best to contradict these facts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-37218639439053538412015-01-04T15:48:33.548-08:002015-01-04T15:48:33.548-08:00India might be only country where opposition party...India might be only country where opposition party leader(s) behaves like spokesperson of enemy country and questions security agencies responsible for protecting citizen and their interests. No wonder people of this country have rejected them and are chosing other parties over them election after election.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-7624379672049037132015-01-04T09:35:24.861-08:002015-01-04T09:35:24.861-08:00Obama is coming, India is looking for a talking po...Obama is coming, India is looking for a talking point. Looks like it has backfired already. This is why rest of the world takes indian intel and indian reporting on Pakistan seriously...NOT.raw13noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-25193889397632017762015-01-04T07:55:11.467-08:002015-01-04T07:55:11.467-08:00It is easier to ignite diesel using a match stick ...It is easier to ignite diesel using a match stick or a cigarette lighter than being hit by a bullet. The chances of the temp, the vapour mixture and the pressure being perfect for diesel to be ignited by a mere bullet is lower than the boat being struck by lighting on a clear summer day.SMOKING WEEDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-77613082562915325052015-01-04T05:49:55.832-08:002015-01-04T05:49:55.832-08:00Terror act like 26/11 is averted that is the large...Terror act like 26/11 is averted that is the larger picture. What is there to come clean by the government on this issue. Vadra illegal land dealings needs to be probed which has become eye sore for congis. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-28173076299293764812015-01-04T04:05:07.708-08:002015-01-04T04:05:07.708-08:00Too many details about covert actions and agencies...Too many details about covert actions and agencies in the media is not a good sign. Immature publicity about sources and sequence of actions and the nitty gritty about who, where and how blunts your organisations' capability in the long run. <br />God help us from ourselves.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04314360028551287224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-67310989414306144192015-01-04T03:29:15.167-08:002015-01-04T03:29:15.167-08:00Sir, Few questions are to be answered ,
1) If it i...Sir, Few questions are to be answered ,<br />1) If it is indeed a fishing boat then what she was doing so deep inside Arabian Sea ? <br />2) Why there is no protest from Pakistan's fisherman community ? Or rather Pakistan Government.<br />2) Yes diesel can catch fire. Not that easily like petrol but it catches fire with very little effort ! Try it. <br />3) Mind that lot of arms and ammunition was landed at Maharashtra coast after Mumbai riot. May be those smugglers were smuggling rifles not RDX. But both are equally dangerous. <br />4) What ever our Coast Guard is done is commendable. <br />Regards.Parthasarathihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07701421388606152443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-40729199631839792782015-01-04T03:21:19.161-08:002015-01-04T03:21:19.161-08:00Good analysis Sir. You agree that it is Pakisthani...Good analysis Sir. You agree that it is Pakisthani vessel. You also agree that they entered Indian waters. What you are not agreeable is that why it was denoted! Hope you are aware of suicide bombers. Do you want CG to lose their lives? Or do you want them to close their eyes, as did during 26/11 period, UPA times. After calamity of losing 1000 invaluable Indian lives, you will say why the boat was not sunk in the first instant. Is it, Sir?Paramasivamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09115384130555624623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-82177535757662858662015-01-04T03:08:04.762-08:002015-01-04T03:08:04.762-08:00A "friend of Pakistan" rants.. or rather...A "friend of Pakistan" rants.. or rather shrills.. aka RNDTV...<br /><br />Logic always does not hold good in operations ... dear Colonel. ... if you ever saw one..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-43911534829104169402015-01-04T02:20:12.991-08:002015-01-04T02:20:12.991-08:00What good is the MoD media team to the MoD if its ...What good is the MoD media team to the MoD if its release statements end up implicating itself?<br /><br />Fire these baboons and get someone who will do the job correctly.SachinWRTnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-37329220195952867752015-01-03T23:25:38.182-08:002015-01-03T23:25:38.182-08:00Smells fishy.Smells fishy.Danielnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-47460566534323204342015-01-03T22:21:55.569-08:002015-01-03T22:21:55.569-08:00finding fault is easy.....if those responsible to ...finding fault is easy.....if those responsible to protect our borders do not take pro-active actions like this, the mumbai attacks would repeat elsewhere.....if such a thing were to happen people like you would reel out posts condemning the very same agencies......remember that no terror incident happened in america since 911 because of their pro-active actions that invited a lot of criticism...... Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com