tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post3424569021340063668..comments2024-03-28T05:22:10.255-07:00Comments on Broadsword by Ajai Shukla - Strategy. Economics. Defence.: F-16 supply to Pakistan a “down” in US-India relations: ParrikarBroadswordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13076780076240598482noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-50224704276310929712022-10-27T05:26:27.050-07:002022-10-27T05:26:27.050-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12571880451048577908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-70621897422152863102016-02-29T06:05:16.537-08:002016-02-29T06:05:16.537-08:00I am delighted to see the confidence our young peo...I am delighted to see the confidence our young people in India's strength. For 50-years I have seen tremendous moaning and whining about Pakistan, whereas at least since 1963 it has been no military threat. Even prior to the post-1962 buildup, our navy and air force were much superior. If our army was not, it was because of a deliberate political decision to keep the army weak because our founding fathers associated it with the outgoing colonial power and the non-stop military coups among the newly independent ex-colonial states, including Pakistan.<br /><br />This was an extreme injustice to a highly professional force that from the start had total loyalty and respect to the Constitution and the Indian people.<br /><br />BTW, the same F-16 Block 52 that is causing our defense minister much sorrow in the hands of Pakistan, was rejected by us as too old. So its not good enough for us, but in Pakistan's hands it becomes a feared, lethal weapon.<br /><br />As raw13 says, Pakistanis must be superhumans with superpowers. Odd, that, considering ethnically they are exactly the same as us.Ravihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01028420171993289655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-61717844947567316222016-02-25T16:15:07.248-08:002016-02-25T16:15:07.248-08:00It is past time to sanction Lockheed Martin, and t...It is past time to sanction Lockheed Martin, and treat any country that dares to sell weapons to Pakistan as what they are, supporting terrorism. China will sanction any US company that dares to sell to Taiwan.<br /><br />We should do the same, there is no reason to tolerate US arms sales to Pakistan. Cancel the Apache deal and buy the Light Combat Helicopter instead, we already have a superior alternative.<br />Make it clear that billions of dollars in other US arms deals are also at risk, we can buy hardware from other suppliers instead of the USA.<br /><br />Clear coercive and harsh punishments are the way to discipline the badly behaved USA. BAD OBAMA BAD!Raahul Kumarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18144388090492230247noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-27058922444397023392016-02-25T10:41:23.248-08:002016-02-25T10:41:23.248-08:00@ raw 13 & Porkis in general
Have you ever se...@ raw 13 & Porkis in general<br /><br />Have you ever seen any aircaft the Porkis operate which they do not sing praises of even though it is a powered glider? The JF-17 Bandar for example-updated Mig 21 it is but listen to the Porkis flying it...the USAF finds flaws with their F-22's, the IAF will publicly shame aircraft (Tejas)and ground them in a crash (Mirage 2000, SU-30 MKI, Hawk)have we ever seen Porkis do it?<br /><br />Same goes for the Porki Mirage III, V and other neanderthal 4th hand aircraft, if the Porkis have it...simply has to be the best with no faults. Remember reading some Porki admiral claim that their 30+ year PC-3 Orion's can take out all Indian Navy Western naval depots...<br /><br />Why? maybe this can give a glimpse..i travel a lot and usually encounter Porki cab drivers at the late night hours (Sydney, Copenhagen, New York, Stockholm come to mind)...and a common mental condition they have is India and Pakistan are "same-same" (barabar wala desh in Punjabi) countries, and they act very surprised (in English-do not believe you) when you tell them about where the Indian economy is and job oportunities/development in India which culminates in them reaching the 4/5 star hotel, they are surprised how Indians can afford to stay at such expensive hotels...ROTFL...Porkis have a very high opinion of themselves (even their 15 year old Toyota Camry falling-apart cab is nothing less than the latest Rolls Royce) and a fixed image of India as it was in 1950. <br /><br />Dream on Porkis....i guess it explains the existence of Porkistan. <br /><br />On a footnote-bessotted Indian media also to blame. Comparing JF-17 Bandar to Tejas..seriously? One is a chinese reject design of the Mig-21, another is IAF pilot certified better than M2K, one sweated by India for 20+ years, other contract manufactured from imported stuff. In that regard, the SU-30 MKI is more Indian than the Bandar is Porki..Guruhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17207506803118876840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-92034854237394304562016-02-21T12:55:18.077-08:002016-02-21T12:55:18.077-08:00@raw13
Yes We are very scared. Little less scared ...@raw13<br />Yes We are very scared. Little less scared than were in 1971 though when glorious Pakistani forces defeated India and took over Kashmir, Punjab and Gujarat from timid Indian army. When PAF destroyed 400 Indian planes without suffering any casualties. If I remember correctly, East Pakistan also fought and defeated India. Thanks to this even today both East and West Pakistan exist. <br />Yes, we are super scared of everything "brave" Pakistanis do. Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06071774354786413490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-85301797129541499992016-02-21T01:13:16.239-08:002016-02-21T01:13:16.239-08:00India's obsession with this relatively minor s...India's obsession with this relatively minor sale cane be viewed as a sign of extreme insecurity. To me, it comes off as if the IAF is very hesitant in going head-to-head against PAF despite having numerical superiority. This lends credence to the fact that the Pakistanis rule the skies when it comes to South Asia.R'gatedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17381989738064531223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-81654406286995719072016-02-20T21:08:36.869-08:002016-02-20T21:08:36.869-08:00France has sold advance Submarines to Pakistan, bu...France has sold advance Submarines to Pakistan, but we still do business with the French without complaints, on the other hand US sells 8 F16, not even a full squadron and we are making a big deal about it.<br /><br />If we are to have a major say with the US, we need to partner/ purchase from them a bit more often. One cannot expect to have a say in something when the other party does not have a lot to lose. To me this is very basic principle of business. We purchase from the Russians, what do you think US thinks of that, at the end of the day we finance Russians to some degree when we buy from them by the billions. Foreign policy is a two way street, we cannot expect to occupy both sides of the street. It's just that simple.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-22681992244734572502016-02-20T16:12:52.978-08:002016-02-20T16:12:52.978-08:00The largest fleet of single engine aircrafts in IA...The largest fleet of single engine aircrafts in IAF i.e. Mig 21 is obsolete & way overdue for replacement. So do Mig 27's & we have enough planned induction of SU 30's that we don't essentially need other twin engined fighters making air force operations too costly. Even U.S. air force can only afford a mix of single engine light & twin engine heavy fighters & India should prevent this economic disaster. Also both future FGFA & AMCA are twin engined. Engine change, Overhaul, Mid life upgrades cost more than the price of an aircraft itself, sometimes more than twice the price of the plane itself. So a 100 million $ fly away cost plane sometimes may incur a life cycle cost of 300 million $ or more & that's the exact case with Rafael which would be economic disaster if ever inducted in numbers & too costly to overhaul if purchased in small quantities. Also French equipment are hugely costly to upgrade & French defence firms badly manipulate the political systems & use blackmailing tactics to charge exorbitantly for it as Mirage's 2k upgrade has shown. We badly need single engined aircraft like mirage & LCA only (& not F16's or Swedish Gripen) . The over charged China syndrome which few in IAF are exhibiting is driven by monetary & other interests created by weapon manufacturing mafia's.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06765576311238317435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-15301712108740906072016-02-20T16:10:19.297-08:002016-02-20T16:10:19.297-08:00My observations about IAF are seriously true to my...My observations about IAF are seriously true to my conscience & thought. IAF has enough twin engine fighter squadrons & it badly & urgently needs single engine light fighters for eg. Pakistan Air force only operates affordable single engine aircrafts. This make only LCA & used Mirage 2000 as viable options. LCA is indigenous so would be affordable in life cycle cost including Mid Life Upgrades & Overhauls.Also it will create & improve aerospace industrial envoirnment in India.So after testing first 20 LCA MK 1A, IAF will have to order additional 100 so as to take the total to 200+20MK1.We have all the technical expertise in terms of men & material & requisite experience to maintain few upgraded Mirage 2000-05 squadrons (which cheaply could be procured from Greece or Taiwan both will humiliate their adversaries either Turkey or China both all weather friends of Pakistan) Also we have already developed war tactics to use the Mirage 2k to its full potential (which serious negates option of used F16 as we don't have its mantainance infrastructure like pakistan & also its air force knows all strengths & deficiencies of F16's & we would take many years before we teach our ace pilots F16's flying & war fighting techniques).<br /><br />We could also bank role sale of used F16's (available) to both Greece & Taiwan which would be affordable option for both countries as they both already operate F16's.It will please both U.S. & also Russia would like to humiliate Turkey. Thus the Greek option is the best in foreign policy terms too.But LCA with exception of bad manufacturing practises by HAL, truly rocks as LCA is best option for india. Only highly competetive & multiple Private defence enterprise exclusively owned by technical (aerospace)experts is the long term solution but right now HAL badly needs to focus on its procurement & production envoirnmentAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06765576311238317435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-36680844695515048442016-02-20T15:45:53.284-08:002016-02-20T15:45:53.284-08:00U.S should clearly state that F16 are supplied to ...U.S should clearly state that F16 are supplied to Pakistan to maintain the strategic balance in subcontinent & prevent Pakistan from going all out in Chinese laps. We open manufacturers have always yielded enough political clout in domestic american politics.Elections are nearby. Also F16 are cheapest & best option for PAF i.e. ultimate combination of procurement & mantainance cost & also in quality favouring life cycle cost benefit analysis.India shoud learn & should go all out either 200+ LCA or for second hand but upgraded mirage 2000 -09 but only if available at deeply discounted rates thereby subsidizing the sale of used F16 to both Greece & Taiwan when used F16 are available at throw away prices in a trilateral agreement involving US pricking both Turkey & China both all weather friends of pakistanAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06765576311238317435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-129394735007379022016-02-20T07:28:15.439-08:002016-02-20T07:28:15.439-08:00Is there any point in talking about American suppl...Is there any point in talking about American supply of arms to Pakistan. I think we should ignore and go ahead with our lives.<br />Just ensure we make 16 LCA next 20 years. Upgrade it every 4-5 years. <br />Of course do same to develop local armor, artlllery etc etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-12828453561819019052016-02-20T03:35:57.322-08:002016-02-20T03:35:57.322-08:00What is interesting is how scared and worried IAF ...What is interesting is how scared and worried IAF is of 8 F-16s. Is this lack of confidence in their 200+ SU-30MKI's, 60+ Mig-29 and 50+ M2K or their own ability to stand up against PAF? PAF truly is the Eagle of the skies in South Asia.raw13noreply@blogger.com