tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post2881596655429438348..comments2024-03-28T05:22:10.255-07:00Comments on Broadsword by Ajai Shukla - Strategy. Economics. Defence.: US anti-tank missile Javelin in face-off with Israel’s SpikeBroadswordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13076780076240598482noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-90284235119221557172013-12-21T09:05:18.924-08:002013-12-21T09:05:18.924-08:00btw, about other military purchases from the US......btw, about other military purchases from the US...<br /><br />Besides transport aircrafts(C130J, C17 and P8), all other orders are stuck in loop<br /><br />Apache and chinook are pending govt approval<br /><br />M777 is also stuck. BAE says order quick or it is closing production line. India has not replied.<br /><br />Javelin too has been offered as a co-development program. India has not replied to this either.<br /><br />------<br /><br />The purchases are limited to transport aircrafts. The problem is that US hardware is better in competition but we cannot buy them. This is the dilemma. Either buy the US hardware(which we can't shoot with, bloody hell) or buy the closest non-US competitor product in the market.SachinWRTnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-13799052139595311952013-12-20T09:44:24.528-08:002013-12-20T09:44:24.528-08:00Correction above: It should have read that "i...Correction above: It should have read that "india doesn't need another ATGM program, It already has an(nag) ongoing one".<br /><br />The US proposal of co-development is actually a googly, their own way of rejecting the indian proposal of OTC purchase along with ToT for domestic manufacturing in india.SachinWRTnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-59218056936794476722013-12-20T04:24:13.133-08:002013-12-20T04:24:13.133-08:00The US proposal was rejected.
What india wanted w...The US proposal was rejected.<br /><br />What india wanted was over the counter purchase and production in india.<br /><br />What the US is proposing is co-development which is no good. It'll take around 10 years before we acquire it. The ToT too is uncertain.<br /><br />The problem is that without javelins, the spike has no contender. We already have the nag program, We absolutely sure need a redundant javelin program now.<br /><br />In the end, the MoD will be purchasing a few spikes and rejuvenating the nag program.SachinWRTnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-81417979061549870472013-12-19T20:52:46.754-08:002013-12-19T20:52:46.754-08:00What about artillery ? This is the backbone of any...What about artillery ? This is the backbone of any army. even kumbhakarana used to,wake up once in 6 months, our MOD has been sleeping for 25 years.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-7532343428337230702013-12-18T19:50:12.544-08:002013-12-18T19:50:12.544-08:00A strip and cavity search in a dingy NYPD thana an...A strip and cavity search in a dingy NYPD thana and the hopes and dreams of Indian generals and air marshals of building the US as major supplier of high tech defence equipment has most likely gone boom.<br /><br />So near yet so close. Things were rolling well for the air force and navy as the new aircraft type deliveries had started landing at Hindon and elsehwere amid great jubilation and fanfare. Even as your article points out , the Javelin was a possibility for inclusion for selection for the Army's ATM's.<br /><br />So what happens next ? Existing orders will be fulfilled but what about the files for new orders now working their way thru the bureaucracy of the MOD. <br /><br />Will Saint Antony now tell his minions to "position and hold" all US related purchase files? As it is ,the Tejas is now the flag of "indianisation' he is waving and the DRDO will only be too happy with this line.<br /><br />Looking forward to your take on the implication of the strip/cavity search on defence purchases from the US ?saffronbandithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10218122572454772636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-75334750592684788082013-12-18T00:12:52.763-08:002013-12-18T00:12:52.763-08:00I have a simple suggestion. Never believe in US an...I have a simple suggestion. Never believe in US and China for anything, they are here for their own well being. You may everyone is, but the most treacherous one is USA closely followed by China. I will say we can even believe Pakistan instead of these two countries. Russia and France is more than enough for us.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03290750760324457012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-25359208105786871612013-12-17T23:03:08.560-08:002013-12-17T23:03:08.560-08:00i dont understand as our defense minister in past ...i dont understand as our defense minister in past already cleared the air by saying that Javelin will be purchased through FMS and new generation of Javelin will be developed alogwith US under TOT.<br />Israeli Spike will be choose only as Vehicle mounted anti tank missile not man portable.<br />The frequent failure of Nag & delays making India to go for Spike as vehicle mounted option.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-73372268882521730632013-12-17T13:15:48.787-08:002013-12-17T13:15:48.787-08:00Ajai, are you not a US stooge? Whats the point in ...Ajai, are you not a US stooge? Whats the point in buying a few pieces of shiny armament? Missile technology is now having good foundations in India. It should be used by DRDO to make ATGM. There is nothing like a borrowed regional power but only a stooge.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-30517876700735998912013-12-17T13:07:34.750-08:002013-12-17T13:07:34.750-08:00Nag is not man portable... army has said that its ...Nag is not man portable... army has said that its heavy even for reloding it within namica.. so it might take years for us to develop a man portable version of nag... we need some thing to fill the gap.. afterall soldiers will be sitting ducks if not prooerly armed in time..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-72156211941902018562013-12-17T10:51:17.565-08:002013-12-17T10:51:17.565-08:00too many cooks spoil the broth.too many cooks spoil the broth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-84560452623732017482013-12-17T08:52:49.026-08:002013-12-17T08:52:49.026-08:00US participation is long time in coming. They are ...US participation is long time in coming. They are so reluctant that original policy set during Cold War is still in place. They refuse to export to countries which were either neutral or State Department & Congressional leaders in US think should not get US military technology. <br /><br />This Jevlin missile has much less copy possible technology compared to M777 or P8I or other military helicopters or Nuclear Deal technology, but that resistance to export still exists. <br /><br />Blame this on the Cold Warriors.<br /><br />Get ready for three to four years delay as the Babus & Generals wish to have their own cut of the deal will send it thru rigorous trials and then find faults with it, just as they did in M777 artillery deals. <br /><br />What a pity on India's procuring procedures.<br /><br />As I said the Defence Minister A K Anthony has to go. He is part of the problem. He is not solution to the problem. Hari Sud (M.S., B. Sc., P Eng.)https://www.blogger.com/profile/14265763692224763117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-72964884103314844962013-12-17T08:16:58.977-08:002013-12-17T08:16:58.977-08:00Who was stopping these MoD idiots from asking DRDO...Who was stopping these MoD idiots from asking DRDO to develop a lighter Version of NAG with israel......plus Israel is less Nakhrebaaz than chacha SAM...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-64334414827174987972013-12-16T22:53:48.276-08:002013-12-16T22:53:48.276-08:00Stop... Nag in its track... Stop Acquiring... 4th ...Stop... Nag in its track... Stop Acquiring... 4th gen... Knowledge Still Born... Nag Plus... Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-45736942938266534572013-12-16T21:12:13.492-08:002013-12-16T21:12:13.492-08:00Long list of "selections" (pending contr...Long list of "selections" (pending contracts)..........and, these are only from the USA.......if you add Europe/Russia/Japan/S Korea.....it's a long long one on which St Anthony has been sitting on you so long !!!<br /><br />What "contracts" do you anticipate will actually be signed by the end of this Financial year ?? Given the tightening of strings by the FM........................<br />Ramannoreply@blogger.com