tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post1959995267304418432..comments2024-03-28T05:22:10.255-07:00Comments on Broadsword by Ajai Shukla - Strategy. Economics. Defence.: Indian, Russian negotiators agree on FGFA development: Cost of project reduced to $4 billion eachBroadswordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13076780076240598482noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-67185553017673116282016-01-25T22:36:25.383-08:002016-01-25T22:36:25.383-08:00@ Adabi Mud
Thank you for providing light humour ...@ Adabi Mud<br /><br />Thank you for providing light humour to this comments section... even if you are making yourself look like an idiot in the process.<br /><br />This blog has been the single most staunch supporter of the Tejas, and of indigenisation in general. From your comments, it is evident that you haven't read my work... and if you have read an article or two, you haven't understood a word in them.<br /><br />Don't waste everyone's time here. Read my work dating back 15 years. And if you can't be bothered to do that before commenting on it, don't waste your time posting here.Broadswordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13076780076240598482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-9554996351512233072016-01-25T18:05:36.264-08:002016-01-25T18:05:36.264-08:00Happy Republic Day to you all...
Do not celebrate...Happy Republic Day to you all...<br /><br />Do not celebrate until you see the fine print...<br /><br />For $4 Billions, India must get complete TOT including engine...<br /><br />No TOT for SU-30MKI, Mig-29K, Smerch, T-90S gun, Destroyers/Frigates, etc<br />Write the contract properly with penalty clauses for not supplying TOT and spares on demand until India catches up with the manufacturing...<br /><br />It is very insulting for India to even consider buying this plane when Russians do not even let Indian pilots go near it...<br /><br />So write the contract with penalties as Russia has history of denying TOT after signing the contract...<br /><br />Pay additional $1 billion, if the Russians are willing to do joint design and development of engine and right to use the technology in Kaveri series...<br /><br />Be respectful to Russians as they supplied most of India's armaments but be firm on TOT including engine...<br /><br />Good ;uck...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-52223487536348532862016-01-25T15:59:55.502-08:002016-01-25T15:59:55.502-08:00Excellent news that 3 prototypes will be finally f...Excellent news that 3 prototypes will be finally flying in Bharat, I remember originally that was supposed to happen by 2016. The IAF's stance on this topic makes no sense, rather than paying premium dollar for an expensive and limited capability plane like the Rafale, it makes more sense to invest for the future in a 5th generation fighter like the PAK-FA.<br /><br />In particular, investing a new engine is a huge breakthrough after Kaveri failed, more than anything experience in designing and developing jet engines is a crown jewel technology that isn't available for any price elsewhere. We must seize the only chance we are being given.Raahul Kumarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18144388090492230247noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-11599942651655045852016-01-25T10:26:30.758-08:002016-01-25T10:26:30.758-08:00Its an unfortunate state of affairs.
The IAF has ...Its an unfortunate state of affairs.<br /><br />The IAF has been speaking in 2 voices on this. Earlier, they foolishly insisted that it'd be a 50-50 "joint development" project. Then later, they raised objections -- albeit very valid ones -- about India's miniscule (actually, nil) engineering contribution, and its obvious shortcomings (given that its tailor-made for Russian needs, not Indian).<br /><br /><b>From the above, it seems this FGFA drama is even funnier than the 15 year long MRCA buffoonery.</b><br /><br />Ideally, the IAF's latter objections should've been heeded, given the fact that there is ZERO Indian contribution vis-a-vis engineering & design, and that its an aircraft made for Russian Air Force's needs. The Indian Air Force hasn't even had a whisper of its wish-list implemented in this thing. And how could it possibly? The jet has already been developed from scratch without any Indian involvement for the Tsar's sake!<br /><br />We all know that the slap-stick 36 Rafale deal had to be pinned, failing which it would've meandered into oblivion. More importantly, it was sealed to save India some diplomatic face. After all, 5 nations had spent millions over many years pitching their planes to Delhi's babus.<br /><br /><b>In much the same way, a "deal" is being cobbled with Russia to simply give a king's burial to this zombie of a project. The bright side is that it saves India some face in Moscow and buys some more years of Russian embargo to Pakistan. Nothing else.</b><br /><br />Its time to rev up the AMCA....Abhimannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-12694164107432561832016-01-25T10:23:22.883-08:002016-01-25T10:23:22.883-08:00Again this will lead to a license production model...Again this will lead to a license production modelAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-72647792593144294972016-01-25T08:19:52.952-08:002016-01-25T08:19:52.952-08:00Ajay, It is slightly disappointing to not to see a...Ajay, It is slightly disappointing to not to see an article on your blog regarding the recent Tejas's performance at the Bahrain airshow. I have noted in the past that you have been extremely critical to the Tejas program and have written many blogs on why must HAL collaborate with your favourite Saab to improve its so called bad performance? Your recent article on the Government's decision to send Tejas to the airshow, where you have deliberately tried to compare Tejas with substandard JF-17, is just a reflection of your long term agenda. It is actually laughable as Saab didn't offer any such help when the Tejas program was going through a difficult time and now when the performance of a Tejas is more or less matching with that of a JAS Gripen, it is offering a helping hand, which is basically just to cripple HAL's abilities again as HAL is slowly making prowess and learning to stand on its feet. The long term motive is quite clear and that is to sabotage domestic aerospace industry and keep India a buyer of military equipments. I am so glad that after so much hard lobbing and hue & cry from various domestic/foreign media outlets and individuals like you, government and HAL didn't give a damn. It is obviously your blog and you are free to write whatever you like to write but it is quite clear from this untimed piece of writing on FGFA that you have't been able to digest the success of Tejas program. May be it is Tejas's performance that has dazzled you and you are just trying to divert the attention or running away for a cover up. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07650201810121602375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-73588665301414149932016-01-25T07:50:04.181-08:002016-01-25T07:50:04.181-08:00What caused this turn around on part of Russia
T...What caused this turn around on part of Russia <br /><br />This Four Billion dollars in Seven Instalments means that we will get FGFA or PAKFA<br />after Seven years after having paid all instalments<br /><br />And when will IAF get to FLY or Test PAK FA Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-26393091705763360942016-01-25T05:59:42.258-08:002016-01-25T05:59:42.258-08:00It is a good development. We should have stuck to...It is a good development. We should have stuck to Su30 & LCA.<br />The medium fighters ftom west are too expensive. Then ask DRDO to do more on cruise missiles & improve Brahmos.<br />For upto 120 km , there is always Pinaka .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-8896695391169613152016-01-25T05:10:48.576-08:002016-01-25T05:10:48.576-08:00What do you make of the "agreement" that...What do you make of the "agreement" that was signed on the Rafale. I seriously believe Modi has shot India in the foot with his decision to drastically rework the MMRCA programme. It would have been more prudent to continue with the then-ongoing negotiations for 126 fighters, or, if those were not going anywhere, junk the whole process and sole source from a new vendor like Saab. Or anyone.<br /><br />By opting for a new deal with the same vendor, Modi has painted India into a corner.Common Sensenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-9912661331746312162016-01-25T04:35:27.788-08:002016-01-25T04:35:27.788-08:00I feel the problem with the Russians they never st...I feel the problem with the Russians they never stick to same price and they keep bumping up the price. They have inferior engine technology.their engine life is shorter known to give problems and have high rate of ailurophobia and spares availability is always a problem. I don't know how come 126 Rafale jets for 10.6 billion became 9 billion for only 36 jets and if the offsets are good I mean Rafale set up the eras assembly line then the deal is worth it. If they get electronic warfare suite of Rafale. For tejas then worth it. From 2018 tejas has to be built in numbers about 50 plus per year then everything else is worth it. GE 414 is a more complete evolution of GE 404 which was a leaky engine and thus gives 98 KN of thrust with 3 percent fuel economy and overall 6 percent fuel savings. There are small modifications to be made to the undercarriage and GE 414 engine can be fitted to the tejas 1A model and air intakes have to be increased and I would prefer divert less supersonic intakes. The weight would increase with new AESA radar as well as the engine and electronic warfare suite if they decide to go with self protection jammers in the wingtips. Every effort e made to reduce the unnescessary weight and open up the flight envelope further. If was a very pleasing sight to the videos of tejas in Bahrain.try now to start simultaneously o devlop the stealth two engined version of tejas which would be lot easier now and simultaneously devlop AMCA as I feel PAFKA is a weak link as quality of product and price tag and spares are a questionable issue.if your industry develops all the indigenous product line then there is easy up gradation and adaptability that gives you the flexibility of options. There are atleast five different options in electronic warfare hardware that should be explored as it takes 8-10 years to devlop a workable product.<br /><br />TIMBAKTOOAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-76700662849014724642016-01-24T22:18:33.744-08:002016-01-24T22:18:33.744-08:00In all likelyhood India has made an in-principle d...In all likelyhood India has made an in-principle decision to turn away from Russian equipment; given Russia's penchant to sell comparable or better equipment to China and the tendency of that equipment to 'leak' into Pakistan. Continue reliance on Russia, and pretty soon, India will find itself facing adversaries on either side fielding similar equipment that was generously paid for by India. The Rafale deal, on the other hand, is more than the 36 fighters being discussed in the media and will happen, even if it takes a while more. The French economy needs the jobs and India needs the defence technology. An agreement has never eluded two needy partners.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-68217785932475771922016-01-24T22:05:25.740-08:002016-01-24T22:05:25.740-08:00Nobody can deny that a 5th generation aircraft wil...Nobody can deny that a 5th generation aircraft will be needed in the coming years to replace SU-30 MKI. FGFA remains the only option . The IAF needs to do what it did with the SU-30 MKI. Get on board and improve it.<br />The IAF model of buying without ownership of development baffles me. Somebody, get them to look at our Navy which is already on board for NLCA!!gurinderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09161306658980192106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-58256603520130435472016-01-24T21:59:45.042-08:002016-01-24T21:59:45.042-08:00NSR says ---
Article is not clear about what are ...NSR says ---<br /><br />Article is not clear about what are the principles of agreement?<br />Are you saying India would not get rights to engine and all the technology in this fighter?<br />What would India get for $4 billions?<br />Need more detailed report please...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-80677790221174588362016-01-24T21:17:54.304-08:002016-01-24T21:17:54.304-08:00Sir when can we expect to see R&D contract sig...Sir when can we expect to see R&D contract signing for FGFA?Ardennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-58178177249903819472016-01-24T20:41:57.141-08:002016-01-24T20:41:57.141-08:00"President Francois Hollande of France, who a..."President Francois Hollande of France, who arrives in Delhi on Monday, has talked up the sale of 36 Rafales to India for an estimated $9 billion (Rs 60,000 crore)."<br /><br />How much are we paying for each Rafale ?? 36 of them for 9B$ !!! <br /><br />This is out right madness.. <br /><br />Unless there's a typo there somewhere.Santoshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10680110425746903143noreply@blogger.com