tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post7671266864655747426..comments2024-03-28T05:22:10.255-07:00Comments on Broadsword by Ajai Shukla - Strategy. Economics. Defence.: Defence ministry rebuts Rafale charges, says UPA signed “confidentiality agreement”Broadswordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13076780076240598482noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-53363850367901229872018-02-26T08:19:46.873-08:002018-02-26T08:19:46.873-08:00If u r pro govt. then u r good journalist otherwis...If u r pro govt. then u r good journalist otherwise u r called pro congress or anti national.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-4968554852780160082018-02-11T05:59:10.357-08:002018-02-11T05:59:10.357-08:00The aircraft is just a token part of the 'deal...The aircraft is just a token part of the 'deal' - the hardware doesn't matter here. Until people get this - they'll never see the light.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-12868906338043629492018-02-11T02:19:16.922-08:002018-02-11T02:19:16.922-08:00This is a response to the comment about IAF's ...This is a response to the comment about IAF's original desire to purchase 126 Mirage-2000. <br /><br />IAF wanted those aircraft in 1999. The Soviet Union had just broken up, the UN Security Council veto inherited by Russia while the Americans had yet to discover India. That made India very reliant on Russian veto in the event of American enthusiasm for Kashmir independence. The Financial Crisis had not yet hit the Western world, which made them more amenable to co-operating with emerging markets like India. Placing a huge order with a Western nation like France in the early 2000s would have certainly caused Russia to blow fuse and potentially withdraw India's veto cover. <br /><br />It is a different story today where India can leave Russia hanging (no platform purchases since 2012, only consumables) and manage the consequences, if any.<br /><br />I too want the MoD babus to be punished; but for the right reasons. And then there is a matter of the Indian Air Force focused more on self-preservation than on national security.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-6485156714518348622018-02-10T10:56:57.864-08:002018-02-10T10:56:57.864-08:00Ajay,
you and rest of the media are ware of total ...Ajay,<br />you and rest of the media are ware of total cost. I hope you can evaluate the price per unit.<br /><br />You may not be Dalal of any defence houses. However, I see other media house as data of one or the other defence houses demand key component const. <br />Neither yourself or any other media house are an expert's on aircraft design/component configuration or design and configuration of barebone Rafael.<br /><br />UPA did not sign the price with Rafael, which they shout in media. Where is UPA final contracted price per aircraft on paper? Will French firm agree they finalised price with UPA? please disclose it and before you demand break-up price of each component <br /><br />We negotiated SU30 MKI for TOT, but it was pure screwdriver technology. I am very much, aware even to this day, key components of SU 30 MKI are imports. The first SU 30 MKI engine built at HAL K was based on a fully imported knock-down kit. The components were screwed back to support the Chairman honour before he retired.<br /><br /> I too can say, the Congress negotiated the price of Rafael for a dollar. or Maybe I can say, the cost of coal mine I was supposed to buy was one Rupee but UPA did not go ahead with the contract. <br /><br /><br />I understand you are an ex-Army personal with the hournalista hat. However, I doubt you have any idea on technical or R&D ground on any of the aircraft design. Please get your fact's before ridiculing high ranking ex- airforce personals in media.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-34621104934698388152018-02-09T15:26:46.476-08:002018-02-09T15:26:46.476-08:00See you are barking at the wrong tree.
https://ww...See you are barking at the wrong tree.<br /><br />https://www.newslaundry.com/2018/02/09/rafale-deal-misconceptions-defence-ministry-dassault<br /><br />The biggestroblem in IAF is number of platforms.IAF is aware of it. <br /> The IAF wanted to buy 126 Mirage-2000. This was a great idea. <br />But some idiot in MoD decided on open competition.Taking the IAF for a ride. Putting the security of the nation at risk.<br />All the joint secy and above in MoD when this decision was taken need to be punished. <br />Minimum pension cut off , maximum sedition.<br />Let us be honest Please answer why we are paying for those civilian babus at all. <br />The decision taken by this govt was right and timely. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-52871256845463676142018-02-09T07:52:21.634-08:002018-02-09T07:52:21.634-08:00Your bias continues to come to fore all the time. ...Your bias continues to come to fore all the time. Incomplete data, factually wrong arguments. You give a broad breakup quoting off the record comments. Is there any truth in that, who knows. If if we assume you are being truthful, where are the specifics that compromise security. Don't try to make issues out of non issues. Shameful journalism, more shameful because you are not upholding the ethos of your military serviceAshishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14975565076366004126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-27435884346253512242018-02-09T06:12:19.059-08:002018-02-09T06:12:19.059-08:00agree with the comment above, you have selectively...agree with the comment above, you have selectively taken 1 example of an expensive upgrade program in itself but overlooked many more. like have we ever disclosed how many contracts have been signed with Israel and for what? same for Russia. we got ammunition by going around all laid down procedure and nobody is having any issues with it. the only reason why congress is bringing this up is because ambani name cropped up otherwise if they were sincere they would have brought all other contracts for disclosure. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-1231467238758374782018-02-09T05:54:37.373-08:002018-02-09T05:54:37.373-08:00https://slashdot.org/submission/7892507/future-of-...https://slashdot.org/submission/7892507/future-of-the-south-korean-defense-industry---market-attractiveness-competitivePankaj Bomblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01661410756952682764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-57391240042267560792018-02-09T05:54:11.300-08:002018-02-09T05:54:11.300-08:00The Future of the South Korean Defense Industry — ...The Future of the South Korean Defense Industry — Market Attractiveness, Competitive Landscape and Forecasts to 2023, published by Strategic Defence Intelligence, provides readers with detailed analysis of both historic and forecast defense industry values, factors influencing demand, the challenges faced by industry participants, analysis of industry leading companies, and key news.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-55775793899880579032018-02-09T03:13:47.768-08:002018-02-09T03:13:47.768-08:00Maybe you should read this instead writing bullshi...Maybe you should read this instead writing bullshit.<br /><br /><br /><br />https://www.myind.net/Home/viewArticle/the-rafale-vs-eurofighter-debate-is-a-non-starter-vested-interests-should-stop-trying-to-derail-the-rafale-dealAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-78216620119283768622018-02-09T01:58:44.943-08:002018-02-09T01:58:44.943-08:00Its surprising to hear this from the Gov. I had co...Its surprising to hear this from the Gov. I had come to expect a more honest and straight forward answer. In today's age one cannot get away with the type of governance on display. <br /><br />What these number will show is that Modiji to please the French president agreed to a day light robbery of Indian money that could easily have been better spent.<br /><br />We get the leaders we deserve. <br /><br />PrasunAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-18598539762023663382018-02-09T01:45:54.372-08:002018-02-09T01:45:54.372-08:00So called Defence expert Ajay Shukla conveniently ...So called Defence expert Ajay Shukla conveniently forgets difference between Gov to Gov deals (As in the case of Rafale and Confidentiality Clause) and Mirage 2000 upgradation ( Where MOD delat with Dassault Aviation, its not G2G) Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-17826984516544041622018-02-08T18:36:13.951-08:002018-02-08T18:36:13.951-08:00After reading this article, one must wonder if Shu...After reading this article, one must wonder if Shuklaji lost the big picture in the intricacies of DPP or is just being another disingenuous journalist. On the topic of Eurofighter v/s Rafale, the latter allows development of a strategic relationship with an advanced industrial nation while the former is a product of a group of nations that are, to put it mildly, at odds with each other at the best of times. To think that Rafale deal is a mere purchase of aircraft is to miss the woods for the trees. For me personally, the success of the Rafale deal is contingent on the outcome of Safran Consultancy for the Kaveri Jet Engine; success of which will cement volume induction of Tejas aircraft in IAF, not to mention grease the path for future development in Aeronautics. Other offsets towards indigenisation will be a bonus. Follow-on Orders for Rafale with increased indigenous content would be akin to a fly-wheel spinning faster upon initial success. There is more to the Rafale deal than mere purchase of aircraft and there are enough hints available in the public domain....only if one wants to take the hint!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-5826157067530604472018-02-08T16:57:55.368-08:002018-02-08T16:57:55.368-08:00You summed it beautifully Krishna ji!! We expect m...You summed it beautifully Krishna ji!! We expect more than this when we visit this page. Hats off to Congress for winning so many talented journalists allegiance! Satinderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13275896589462459237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-64846433900566390102018-02-08T09:21:51.126-08:002018-02-08T09:21:51.126-08:00UPA wanted... bofors II... Signed NDA... couldn...UPA wanted... bofors II... Signed NDA... couldn't take bribe... sore about it...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-47965989017082517422018-02-08T05:12:38.930-08:002018-02-08T05:12:38.930-08:00Why are you bothered about Rafale. It is a govt to...Why are you bothered about Rafale. It is a govt to govt deal. <br />It is the aircraft IAF selected after a through selection process. MoD agreed with the choice. <br /> BJP honoured the selection. <br />Be happy BJP did not change its mind and order something else, as if ruling party president fly this. <br />Now idiots like you are saying it is wrong blah blah . <br />Corruption is illegal in France, why will french govt deal with corruption. <br /><br />In fact GOI should go only for Govt to Govt deals always.<br />All the L1 bids, competition is backwass. Leads to corruption,fudging of results etc.<br /><br />Then you Guys add all kinds of lies. You retired guys had better stock gardening. <br />So col, get ahead with life. Forget Rafale. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-73637586215888951772018-02-08T00:11:23.271-08:002018-02-08T00:11:23.271-08:00why is the aircraft so costly are they giving us t...why is the aircraft so costly are they giving us the blueprints to manufacture the aircraft ourselves even withe weapons package and the maintenance but there are rumours that they would make the kaveri engine work and help it with the amca but disclosing the price with the opposition in a closed door meeting will also help as we are short of fighter aircrafts Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05492058716040965457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-37043914033366772392018-02-07T19:32:06.044-08:002018-02-07T19:32:06.044-08:00What people like you and some Congress based anti-...What people like you and some Congress based anti-national politicians have managed to achieve here is a policy paralysis. This will prevent any future purchase of essential weapons for national security in reasonable time. You never seemed at discomfort about the MMRCA tender which took 8 years and ended up going nowhere. You as well as anyone with basic understanding of defense matters know that inviting Eurofighter back in the fray would have delayed the process of buying any aircraft by years. But somehow, you seem ok if Indian Air Force remains under equipped as long as Modi government doesn’t get any credit. You seem at ease with the fact that Indian Airforce would be no match against Chinese new generation fighters without an advanced system such as Rafale. If anyone ever relied you for defense matters, India would still be flying Gnats and Hunters.Dujacnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-20024948953836130602018-02-07T10:00:27.836-08:002018-02-07T10:00:27.836-08:00Interesting that you wrote about one instances whe...Interesting that you wrote about one instances where UPA RM mentioned price per aircraft for a commercial deal (sourced from @manupubby's tweet?), but failed to mention four other instances where UPA RM declined to disclose item-wise price and even total size of the deal (as mentioned in @vishnuNDTV and @iyervval's tweets).<br /><br />Unless the upgrade of Mirage 2000 was a G to G deal and not a commercial contract to Dassault Aviation as widely reported (which would not have come under a G to G confidentiality agreement), juxtaposing them is dishonest journalism.Krishnanoreply@blogger.com