tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post5989658364059156429..comments2024-03-23T09:25:42.029-07:00Comments on Broadsword by Ajai Shukla - Strategy. Economics. Defence.: That meddlesome Punjabi army: Book review of Steven I Wilkinson's book, "Army and Nation"Broadswordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13076780076240598482noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-82248948463545388692016-10-04T11:25:55.803-07:002016-10-04T11:25:55.803-07:00Well Pakistan did take Azad Kashmir and also, the ...Well Pakistan did take Azad Kashmir and also, the average Pakistani is naturally gun like whereas your whole army of Jatts and Sikhs are only 2% of India's population.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-75184470165997398692015-07-23T14:14:24.516-07:002015-07-23T14:14:24.516-07:00Everytime somebody says that Pashtuns are not rela...Everytime somebody says that Pashtuns are not related to South Asians, it shows how retarded they are, more Pashtuns live in Pakistan than Afghanistan, they have 20 percent Dravidian blood.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-14301998841021165302015-07-23T14:10:33.406-07:002015-07-23T14:10:33.406-07:00All Pakistani Pashtuns have Dravidian blood proven...All Pakistani Pashtuns have Dravidian blood proven by studies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-62567528802818675432015-07-23T14:09:10.473-07:002015-07-23T14:09:10.473-07:00Its been genetically proven that Pashtuns have 20 ...Its been genetically proven that Pashtuns have 20 percent dravidian, and the Indian Punjabis are 40 percent dravidian, Gurkhas also have some south indianturdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10289718276268748873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-8946828852734689702015-05-04T01:44:23.566-07:002015-05-04T01:44:23.566-07:00Wonderful! Now lets go ahead and introduce RESERVA...Wonderful! Now lets go ahead and introduce RESERVATION in the Indian Army, just like Para Military and Police forces. <br /><br />Strong representation from all parts of the country, all religions, all ethnic groups, and all sub-regions will ensure much higher level of integrity, efficiency, and professionalism ;-)<br /><br />It will ensure that the meddlesome, fraternal, political punjabees get the boot and other submissive, docile, conservative, conformal people get an invitation to the Great Indian Army...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-12667248200341644072015-04-29T20:41:33.023-07:002015-04-29T20:41:33.023-07:00Dear Anonymous,
They did in fact take on the Briti...Dear Anonymous,<br />They did in fact take on the British.As attested to in the Anglo-Gurkha war of 1814 and the two Anglo-Sikh wars of 1845 and 1849.The British developed a healthy respect for their fighting qualities in these wars and consequently recruited them in their army.<br />No one doubts the fighting qualities of the Pakistani soldier.Like his Indian counterpart when he is well equipped,trained and led he performs well in battle.Sherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09705618305479130391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-15359453911368335182015-04-29T03:43:39.514-07:002015-04-29T03:43:39.514-07:00@Sher
If martial races theory had been true then ...@Sher <br />If martial races theory had been true then why did these very same races numbering in millions not fight off British colonial occupation of their lands instead of joining their army for few coins, a bar of soap and some food?<br />Also why Pakistani Army which consists of almost all martial races, lost all battles against Indian Army which is by and large a mix of both martial and non martial races? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-40047791888615671032015-04-21T23:35:21.362-07:002015-04-21T23:35:21.362-07:00The martial races theory is not a myth Mr Shukla.I...The martial races theory is not a myth Mr Shukla.It was propounded by FM Lord Roberts c-in-c Indian Army.His experience of over forty one years in India led him to conclude that the hardier races of the north possessed the necessary physical and moral qualities to take on the Russian threat.If it had been a mere case of rewarding loyalty during the mutiny of 1857 the soldiers of the Madras army,who did not mutiny, would have been retained instead of being reduced at the expense of more martial northern races.These differing soldierly qualities remain largely unaltered.Hence the relevance of the martial race concept in today's army.Sherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09705618305479130391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-78547374489759758042015-04-17T03:42:21.788-07:002015-04-17T03:42:21.788-07:00After the 1857 uprising, British recruiters drew m...<i>After the 1857 uprising, British recruiters drew mainly from areas that had not revolted against the British, particularly Punjab, but also the North West Frontier Province, Jammu, Garhwal and the Gurkha areas. </i><br /><br />Ha Ha Ha ... how would they revolt against the British when those areas were not under them ??<br />Garhwalis were recruited as part of Gorkhas.<br />and what happens to Chandra Singh Negi of Peshawar fame ?? Did the British disband that unit ??<br /><br />Must be a joking !! Or as usual presenting cooked facts like others.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-86096509547163988072015-04-15T22:09:07.319-07:002015-04-15T22:09:07.319-07:00Even till today Indian Army, let alone Pakistani A...Even till today Indian Army, let alone Pakistani Army, is pretty much a Punjabi dominated army. It's Punjabi dominated because the recruiting officers also happen to be Punjabis. The non Hindi speaking population of India who are almost 2/3rd of the population are grossly under represented. Indian Army was drawn from people or communities who were loyal to the British like the Muslim Punjabis, Sikhs, Rajputs from Rajputana aka Rajasthan or foreigners like Pathans and Gorkhas. This same structure has remained unchanged even after more the 68 years since British left India. <br />What is the need for 7 Gorkha Regiments in modern independent India? <br />50,000 crores of our defense budget (which is more than combined budget of navy and air force) only goes towards payment of pension. How much of that money goes to Nepal, a country ruled by pro Chinese maoists?<br />Isn't it time to address these glaring imbalances in post independence Indian Army?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-15828837939769769752015-04-14T21:05:03.011-07:002015-04-14T21:05:03.011-07:00# according to the author, an academic working in ...# according to the author, an academic working in america, the picture on the cover is that of soldiers from a cavalry regiment. the 'redcoats' in the picture are men from a ceremonial unit, the president's body guard who are not even responsible for mounting any guard in the rashtrapati bhavan, this being done by a company of the current lal quila garrison infantry battalion, or even security, handled by the delhi police. and the PBG are certainly not cavalry, or armoured corps, or paratroopers, but show troops. in pakistan, burma, nigeria, thailand, indonesia, egypt the army officers are drawn from a much higher socio-economic decile than in india, besides these countries are dominated by a single ethnic group, with a common culture. we are a functioning anarchy, good at parades, seminars, jaw-jaw; mostly incompetent in systems, operations. like our railways, postal services, police stations, the upper echelons merely enjoy the loaves and fishes of office, excel in rent-seeking, while the trains, post offices, police constabulary run on inertia. besides as every embassy in chanakya puri knows, our elites are easily flattered about their intellectual abilities, sophisticated taste in wine, single-malt whisky, going abroad, friends in high places in anglo-sphere, are easily embarrassed, disown anybody who does not speak good angrezi. we have one of the highest rates of fragging, officers being shot in the back. a military coup in india would collapse in its own contradictions, just as not one of our elite academic institutions appear to even enter international rankings, even though their alumni are visible at the best universities in north america, britain, even europe. in a country of more than a billion the top 100,000 have to be outstanding by all standards. the army officers are far lower down, lack credibility, ability, a culture of dependable systems, reliable competence, in many ways akin to the babucracy, living on pre-independence procedures, ideas, even doctrines. nothing unusual, 200 sections of the westminster legislated government of india, act 1935 have been cut and pasted into independent india's constitution, ennacted, 1950. the ops of war manual, advance, still reads as if it were for a column led by red faced blimps advancing into hostile waziristan. and we continue to have world war 2 posts like the brigade major, BM, an appointment that is today only found in the household guards, blues & royals household cavalry in the british army, besides the indian army.george ninanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01856262118970125304noreply@blogger.com