tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post5629187982948826388..comments2024-03-28T05:22:10.255-07:00Comments on Broadsword by Ajai Shukla - Strategy. Economics. Defence.: Doklam faceoff: Motives, stakes and what lies ahead?Broadswordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13076780076240598482noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-59005210824472410442017-09-08T06:13:52.165-07:002017-09-08T06:13:52.165-07:00China on Friday defended Pakistan's counter-te...China on Friday defended <a href="http://www.newindianexpress.com/world/2017/sep/08/china-defends-pakistan-anti-terrorism-efforts-after-trump-criticism-1654127.html" rel="nofollow">Pakistan's counter-terrorism efforts,</a> following President Donald Trump's accusation that Islamabad harbours militants attacking US and Afghan troops.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03548785207276680006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-64271178509153735012017-08-01T07:41:03.699-07:002017-08-01T07:41:03.699-07:00Your thoughts on 'vulnerability' of Siligu...Your thoughts on 'vulnerability' of Siliguri corridor identical with mine. Baffled media doesn't see this.Ravihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01028420171993289655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-75225148221554885622017-07-28T02:59:15.521-07:002017-07-28T02:59:15.521-07:00Hello,
I salute my indian army. Only because of th...Hello,<br />I salute my indian army. Only because of them I can sleep without any tension, my parents live happily. But what we do for them, nothing. I have ignored and stop buying chinese product, because it will <a href="https://www.logicworxinc.com/" rel="nofollow">increase business performance</a> and then they fund our money to terrorist in pakistan. Indirectly we are giving money to terrorist to kill ous. So i beg you all to stop buying chinese product.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03704908249461224966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-85805909504037760402017-07-25T14:11:32.994-07:002017-07-25T14:11:32.994-07:00The Doklam standoff, is yet another example of tac...The Doklam standoff, is yet another example of tactics of, first creating a dispute based on falsification of facts, and then ensuring that it remains a complicated issue to be raked as and when it feels opportune to leverage these in tandem with its military, economic and diplomatic might. The issue may be kept in limbo, to be brought into limelight in a very well-orchestrated mix of – sudden incursion of its troops (while maintaining that the same is in retaliation to opposing party’s actions/claims), shrill propaganda (depicting itself as the victim) bordering on unveiled threats and then engaging in a vicious blame game. All this may carry on till the immediate objectives (which may be either or combination of political and economic reasons or just to maintain its hegemonic threat intact). In the present case, the aims, obviously seem to be two-fold, one, inch closer in designs @ Bhutan, and two, to occupy area of strategic importance in a future conflict @ India. Having played out acts one and two of the script (i.e incursion of its troops in the territory of a Sovereign Independent Nation and claiming it to be its territory) they have embarked on a high-pitched rhetoric in conjunction with sabre rattling and bullying. <br />These tactics have been employed elsewhere (in border conflicts with its neighbors at various points of time of its choosing to in pursuance of objectives and interests obtaining at that point of time) by the Chinese albeit with mixed outcomes. India’s resolve to counter Chinese hegemony by boycotting Chinese initiative a la OBOR and various other actions as brought out by Ajai Shukla, do have a very direct bearing on the current faceoff at Doklam. It is very clear that an issue which had been kept under the carpet, has suddenly been deliberately pulled out of the proverbial hat. <br />As far as the threat to Siliguri Corridor is concerned, it is undeniable fact that Chinese presence at Doklam will certainly give the Chinese a psychological edge if not an out and out strategic one. It will also undermine India’s equation in India, Bhutan,China Triology. <br />To brush off India’s genuine concerns and making light off a looming threat to sovereignty of its aly Bhutan (albeit over a period of time in event by event destruction of status quo) would be naïve.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02621294077113303612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-28050117615532470472017-07-22T06:47:21.624-07:002017-07-22T06:47:21.624-07:00Interesting commentary. Point taken that the incur...Interesting commentary. Point taken that the incursions of the Chinese, whether it's here or in the South/East China seas is being met with more and more fierce resistance each time. <br /><br />Just today the US has apparently signaled that there will be frequent and ongoing patrols within the 12 mile limit of China's claimed features in the SCS. <br /><br />I think here too, India acting decisively is what will stop China. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-73290282560531337542017-07-20T11:34:32.269-07:002017-07-20T11:34:32.269-07:00If this war turns hot, India will wish they had so...If this war turns hot, India will wish they had sought alliance with America now, while they can get it.jdgalthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08984710697512765565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-89001265632074065182017-07-20T04:14:30.748-07:002017-07-20T04:14:30.748-07:00Chinese demonstrate and respect strength nothing e...Chinese demonstrate and respect strength nothing else will doAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-26709069337525295972017-07-20T04:12:31.553-07:002017-07-20T04:12:31.553-07:00Couldn't agree more with your observation. The...Couldn't agree more with your observation. The author is parroting the defensive line followed by India thus far allowing chinese to grow in strength.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-52191423685369579782017-07-20T02:16:42.363-07:002017-07-20T02:16:42.363-07:00About time the Chinese learnt the facts of life. T...About time the Chinese learnt the facts of life. They cannot push India around any more. The Doklam incident is a litmus test of whether India can stand up to its commitments to allies and friends!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-28669757643129729332017-07-20T01:18:02.051-07:002017-07-20T01:18:02.051-07:00Very good article but some of the facts are select...Very good article but some of the facts are selective. India resisting Chinese encroachment in Ladakh in 2013 and the Chinese demanding why "they did not do so earlier" only shows the general comparative strength of along MOST of the border. However, there are other larger issues as to "Why Now" in terms of the Chinese provocation: 1. As the author pointed out, walking away from Bhutan would essentially cede influence over the entire country to China. This was a mistake made with Tibet that India should not repeat. 2. More importantly, Modi is a largely stable leader in India while Xi Jinping is in the last six months of his first term. The Chinese National Congress is barely four months away, in November 2017. At the Congress, Xi can either be hailed as a national hero if he wins or be pushed out if he loses. The stakes are far higher than a brushfire war: the very long-term viability of China and India's status throughout Asia and the world are at stake. No other major countries will intervene at this time. It is all up to the two antagonists to determine if they choose fight, flight or some common ground which is looking harder and harder to find at this time.Srikanthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00476377014841811624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-87351972901194593442017-07-19T23:34:31.266-07:002017-07-19T23:34:31.266-07:00So what do you have to say about:
# Border disput...So what do you have to say about:<br /><br /># Border dispute near Lipuleakh at India- china - Nepal border which has been lefy undemarcated.<br /># Dispute near karakoram which forced Indians to occupy Siachin as one of the resons.<br /># Unknown India -POK - China trijuction due to China usurping Indian territory.<br /># Border disput on Estern side of India - Bhutan -China boder near Dhola.<br /># Undemarcated and disputed India - Myanmar - China trijuction.<br /><br />China entered into agreement with their border with Myanmar and Nepal but not with Bhutan despite it being an independent country.Border with Sikkim was but a historical baggage and even there china tried to finger India. A country which actively fought wars for its allies - Korea, Vietnam and Camodia and interfered in the internal and exteranal affairs of all the countries in South and Southeast Asia has problems with India standing for Bhutan ? and some psuedo analysts like you put that as unreasonable Indian action !!<br /><br />And you are trying all your best to justfy Chinese actions. That is the worth of your so called wise military analysis.If Indian border takes 1000 years to be settled so be it as that is better than surrendering our nationhood - Hindu Nationalism as Chinese are calling it now along with commies, congies, mamta and jehadies of all shades.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-9364130285524518952017-07-19T23:11:38.723-07:002017-07-19T23:11:38.723-07:00Well traversed.
What this article fails to dwell ...Well traversed.<br /><br />What this article fails to dwell on are the macro developments. The growing aversion to Chinese hegemony and India's own confidence that has been bolstered by the cheering it is receiving to hold China off. It also does not dwell on China's own vulnerability arising from such public opinion in the light of its Economic-Infrastructure (OBOR-CPEC etc) ambitions and India's suspicions arising from China's military conquest of Tibet and occupation of large parts of India such as, for example, Gilgit-Baltistan.SuchindranathAiyerShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15174892566892609337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-4905842730364250952017-07-19T13:13:24.342-07:002017-07-19T13:13:24.342-07:00India has a teaty with Bhutan to protect Bhutan. S...India has a teaty with Bhutan to protect Bhutan. So India is doing the right thing it is China who is not maintaing the status quo. Why does China want to build a road in a disputed territory. <br />And when you are saying China can enter in Kashmir from Pakistan side than you should know it has already done that through CPEC. So by your own logic leave aside India in Bhutan why China came up with CPEC at ten first instance. <br />So please act what you preachAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-25627683823858413962017-07-19T10:59:08.303-07:002017-07-19T10:59:08.303-07:00By your logic Indias mountain strike corp can also...By your logic Indias mountain strike corp can also enter Tibet if called upon by the Dalai Lamaandyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06531448019825751202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-60664924401789639082017-07-19T10:27:09.891-07:002017-07-19T10:27:09.891-07:00China too have fire power. Your writting about PLA...China too have fire power. Your writting about PLA can suffer huge loss if enter Siliguri is grossly misplaced.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-47143621526515264282017-07-19T09:14:20.139-07:002017-07-19T09:14:20.139-07:00A balanced write up. China can not risk a loss of ...A balanced write up. China can not risk a loss of face in any confrontation which can put to rest its global aspiration. Bullies usually only push the timid around. sangwanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08340735463419184122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-19878050124726074392017-07-19T08:30:22.609-07:002017-07-19T08:30:22.609-07:00Are you planning to write a blog on how over the y...Are you planning to write a blog on how over the years China has built road and rail infrastructure lock-in-step with it's territorial and economic aspiration? How India's infrastructure is advantage/disadvantage to quick and easy movement of troops and artillery to Himalayan border?<br />Also, in regards to Siliguri corridor, isn't air power a factor?<br /><br />Looking fwd to learn more through your blogs.ankithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10861428021605374686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-75656321554728329392017-07-19T08:24:47.943-07:002017-07-19T08:24:47.943-07:00Thanks for your valuable messages cool sabThanks for your valuable messages cool sabNagarathinam khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00646694679689900646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-61697878731626619602017-07-19T07:12:58.799-07:002017-07-19T07:12:58.799-07:00China has a habit of playing with facts on grounds...China has a habit of playing with facts on grounds and the slowly inch by inch occupy land or sea. <br /> It is good to see an assertive government .<br />Time we put in mechanisms to ensure our market is not automatically accessible. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-69913737183600824852017-07-19T06:59:05.262-07:002017-07-19T06:59:05.262-07:00I am surprised that you consider Chinese military ...I am surprised that you consider Chinese military presence on Doka-La - Gymochen posing only a negligible threat to the Chicken's neck portion. That especially considering your background.!!<br /><br />Your depiction of the threat as far away from the Chicken's Neck is incorrect - Also, in your earlier blog you stated "In fact, advancing to the Siliguri corridor would require Chinese troops to break through strong Indian defences in Sikkim and advance southwards more than a hundred kilometres through difficult jungle terrain – a tough military task." <br /><br />You seem to have got the distances wrong!! Aerial distance to the Indian plains is less than 40 km from the claimed high ground. Also, there already are tracks from the high grounds to the plains that could be expanded - definitely not "a hundred kilometres through difficult jungle terrain – a tough military task".<br /><br />The entire stretch of the narrow Indian land corridor south of Bhutan eastwards up to Alipurduar is vulnerable given the single axis of communication - the solitary railway line and highway.<br /><br />Give away the high ground at Doka La - Gymochen to China and that will become their new datum for further 'cartographic creep-aggression' and their further push southwards. You know that as well I do and yet you chose to ignore this seminal point. Also, the plains of Bengal will come within their long-range artillery from the high grounds.<br /><br />All that argument about exploiting Chinese vulnerabilities due to the narrow corridor of the Chumbi valley, etc is a reactive option, in the event of hostilities, definitely not an excuse to sit passively navel-gazing as they build their Class 5 road beyond Doka La. Given their known record in the South China Sea and elsewhere, it is a certain fact that the Chinese will continue their push outwards unless given firm resistance. So why give them a free run to Doka La and the high ground of advantage in the first place?Gp Capt Hari Nair (Ret'd)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-30046876272851246962017-07-19T05:22:36.609-07:002017-07-19T05:22:36.609-07:00China will not attack in this area but an area whe...China will not attack in this area but an area where we are weakAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02774636105865916484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-30604119320556946472017-07-19T04:24:38.527-07:002017-07-19T04:24:38.527-07:00Pls have a look at this article...
http://www.fals...Pls have a look at this article...<br />http://www.falsenews.com/blog/?p=478<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-57293058639272640302017-07-19T04:16:28.950-07:002017-07-19T04:16:28.950-07:00The fact is that China kept testing us over the ye...The fact is that China kept testing us over the years and those tests are not the benchmark contrary to what the chinese have set for India. India has changed and in the last few years more change has come which the chinese fail to factor in. It's good for us. We should start more agressive builtup of infra and weapons. more importantly our intelligence network needs to grow wings in the east. We should assign 5% gdp to defence and cut down on wasteful aids that drive people away from work anyhow. the world knows how china is greedy for land grabs. we should also boost our blue waters and take the stress to south china sea. time to come out of the shell, bigger things are at stake as India grows.Staunchly Indianhttps://indiandefencenews.net/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-44379630351923182722017-07-19T03:53:49.018-07:002017-07-19T03:53:49.018-07:00Chinese should know that this is India of 2017.The...Chinese should know that this is India of 2017.They should also know that they were given a bloody nose by Vietnam in 1979.After 1962,PLA hasn't won any war. India has won three. Jitendra Desaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16086127804384631192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-29380217554805667232017-07-19T02:42:56.747-07:002017-07-19T02:42:56.747-07:00Dear Ajaishukla
so the situation as it stands and...Dear Ajaishukla<br /><br />so the situation as it stands and as I understand <br /><br />--Dokhlam where Indian troops are is not Indian territory but controlled by Chinese<br />--Bhutan has disputed the Chinese claim to this land ...but lot of countries dispute the borders...and a dispute is not a right<br />--Ind has no right nor claim on that piece of land yet Ind crossed the LAC for two given reasons<br /><br />1) India's own perception of risk to herself because of Chinese constructions<br />2) Possible call from Bhutan to enter into Chinese side of LAC because Bhutan disputes it.<br /><br />Now if this logic is extended....<br /><br />China can enter anytime into Indian territory anywhere along its 3500km border, on it's own perception of risk and stop Indian activities if any on Indian side of LAC <br /><br />China can enter India territory at any point on call of Pak claiming to have border dispute with India.<br /><br />and now we can see ...India has entered into a potentially self defeating & dangerous argument.<br /><br />India does understand this.....but the situation is stuck like a frog in snake's throat<br /><br />if India walks away now.....China will ensure to announce this as a defeat<br />and opposition in India will pain this as a debacle second to only 1962 defeat. China also senses Modi turning everything into a prestige issue and is not letting any quite wriggle-room to India.<br /><br />If India stays on.....the argument for staying on is self-defeating and dangerous as explained above.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com