tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post465828148783898012..comments2024-03-28T05:22:10.255-07:00Comments on Broadsword by Ajai Shukla - Strategy. Economics. Defence.: INS Vikrant is reborn, as new aircraft carrier launchedBroadswordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13076780076240598482noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-70578933942067388112013-08-15T11:20:21.790-07:002013-08-15T11:20:21.790-07:00The navy should have concrete plans on projected C...The navy should have concrete plans on projected CVBG formations for the future (post INS Vikrant) before finalisation of IAC-2 design and subsequent production of the carrier and follow on units of the same class. Going nuclear is a good option and I'm sure our "technological development partner" can help us build a reactor powerful enough for this.<br /><br />There is much talk and speculation of the N-LCA to be based on our carriers but I for one am not impressed with it's limited payload and small combat radius and fail to see what specific role it will play. <br />What is really needed is a fast aircraft with heavy payload and deep strike capability for expeditionary missions as I am sure our CVBGs are deemed/projected for such purpose. Otherwise, we have plenty of land based aircraft to protect out shores.<br /><br />The Kolkata class DDGs are supposedly to be very well armed in a multi role configuration and the follow on P-15Bs may perhaps be even better equipped as air defence ships. These along with the P-17A FFGs and P-28As and a couple of SSK/SSGN would make the ideal escorts for our CVBGs.<br /> Production of the aforementioned warships should be hastened and perhaps even contracted to private shipyards for construction of key components if the MoD is wary of awarding full execution due to confidentiality of combat and electronic warfare systems etc.<br /><br />Also, whatever happened to the RFP for the 4 LHDs? I for one find the Juan Carlos-I most interesting simply for the fact that it supports STOVL. F-35Bs for IN in future?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09065324067933603145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-28569863806465947882013-08-15T04:44:23.374-07:002013-08-15T04:44:23.374-07:00dear annon @19.36,
i appreciate your comments on ...dear annon @19.36,<br /><br />i appreciate your comments on my thoughts.might i remind you that this learning course u are talking about is quite an expensive one and the risks traditionnally involved with projects are extensive delays and cost growths.planning such projects takes tym,especially for a novice which we definitely are in this field.I was thus suggesing that IN consider accuiring one of the CVFs as a low risk option. the developement of our futurecarriers can continue simultaneously.This option if taken up gives us ample time to sit down and a second better carrier based on operational experience aboard vikrant.SPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-25061932721146715652013-08-14T11:57:11.507-07:002013-08-14T11:57:11.507-07:00Sir, imagine if Mrs Anthony coconut had damaged th...Sir, imagine if Mrs Anthony coconut had damaged the hull, SAIL would have sunk, no ? Thanks God it did not happen. Curious BangaliAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-19732943909969284012013-08-14T07:06:39.169-07:002013-08-14T07:06:39.169-07:00@SP
" it would not include the risks associat...@SP<br />" it would not include the risks associated with designing and building a ship from ground up."<br /><br />Since when trying to learn and achieve self reliance is considered as risk... ufff... People.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-7669324576570550262013-08-14T05:55:12.737-07:002013-08-14T05:55:12.737-07:00Hey Mr. Shukla,
I've read reports that the IA...Hey Mr. Shukla,<br /><br />I've read reports that the IAC cost $5 billion US+ to build so far. Is that true?? Would you be able to shed some light on this topic?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-13553370903647892582013-08-14T00:34:12.384-07:002013-08-14T00:34:12.384-07:00sir,
It has been widely publicised in recent times...sir,<br />It has been widely publicised in recent times that the RN might sell one of its two queen elizabeth class carriers under construction;the final decision is set to be taken during their 2015 strategic defence reveiw.<br /><br />In my opinion,the IN would find a good deal in buying it,if offered for sale, as it would not include the risks associated with designing and building a ship from ground up.<br /><br />SPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-35579575111915885292013-08-13T14:48:30.381-07:002013-08-13T14:48:30.381-07:00Lets not quibble about announcements and ceremonie...Lets not quibble about announcements and ceremonies. This is the tradition over centuries all over the world whether you launch a skiff or nuclear carrier hull. It is a red letter day for the country to take pride in its indigenous design and manufacture. I notice that of the 48 warships on order, 47 are being produced in India! Even nuclear power and space dont have that level of indigenisation, and they have been at it longer!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-29556503112493489492013-08-13T11:30:34.303-07:002013-08-13T11:30:34.303-07:00@ RD,
"It may have been done for election ca...@ RD,<br /><br />"It may have been done for election campaign"<br /><br />There is no reason to add 'may' in that statement. It is undeniably done with that in mind among other reasons. Anyhow, most governments play such cheap tactics to hard-sell it as 'their' success story and cover up all the scams that haunt them. Despite I am 200% pro-BJP, I think had BJP been in power, they would have done the same thing, perhaps with even more brouhaha. Sadly we r light years away from having sane minds in politics that keep 'national interest' and 'personal interest' apart and keep working quietly (advancing both) as the Chinese politburo members. Deshdaazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13072694845029489289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-25732901637694701252013-08-13T10:26:37.955-07:002013-08-13T10:26:37.955-07:00I hope the navy is not just contend with Self-Reli...I hope the navy is not just contend with Self-Reliance which essentially means imitating systems built by others and push towards innovation also... If a tiny island like England can invent an aircraft carrier, ski jump, Harrier jet, battle tanks and numerous other systems so can we, if we are determined enough.... We can copy Russia model which took competition with US as a major inspiration to compete, build and innovate... How about Chinese for starters ? Why not compete with and make sure that we are ahead of China in everything, Aircraft carriers, missiles, jets, space, cars and even in economy...<br />A focused and strong leadership can definitely do so even with democratic constraint... coolgeeknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-5154574759967746022013-08-13T10:19:59.650-07:002013-08-13T10:19:59.650-07:00I second what Joydeep said about IMS Vikrant. Ther...I second what Joydeep said about IMS Vikrant. There is not much awareness about it in the general public, and it would be good to have the media highlight the issue. In my last visit to Mumbai, I badly wanted to visit the Vikrant, but no one knew much about it at my hotel, and the Navy officer I ran into at the Gateway said it is open only 2 days a week or so. Disappointing, for such an illustrious piece of modern Indian history!<br /><br />How much will it really cost to maintain it, compared to the mountains of cash the GoI spends on useless freebies and subsidies?<br /><br />When I was young, the Navy did not rank in my list of career options, simply due to lack of awareness. Our movies also showcase the Army, and maybe the IAF, but not much about the Navy.<br /><br />More efforts such as the submarine museum at Vizag, the proposed sub museum at Mamamllapuram, and the IMS Vikrant are needed to attract more youth and spark their imagination. Of course, the same applies to Army tanks or Air Force jets, but haven't heard of any such efforts recently.Shyamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-83321434661652546792013-08-13T00:28:08.963-07:002013-08-13T00:28:08.963-07:00@Ajai sir
a few things
you say 'the Vikrant...@Ajai sir <br /><br />a few things<br /><br />you say 'the Vikrant was decommissioned; it is now a floating maritime museum, moored off Mumbai.' the fact is, this ship is all set to be scraped and that order are set to be issued soon.<br /><br />what a tragic waste of history<br /><br />I wish / suggest this ship could and should be sunk and converted into a artificial coral reef & diving destination.<br /><br />Could you if you please suggest the same to the higher ups and save the historic ship from ignonimity.<br /><br />You forgot to mention IAC1 will fly NLCA mk2, which is long way away & thats why its being said IAC1/Vikrant will be battle ready only by 2020 as NLCA mk1 itself is long way off let alone mk2. <br /><br />Btw isnt IAC1 is 262 m long as per some reports, but you say 260 m whats correct.<br /><br />As for IAC 2 nuclear reactor & EMALS should be preferred option but then the size should be way more than the speculated 65000 ton but the issue is can DRDO/DAE develop such such big reactor that too withour Russian help!!<br /><br />What are your opinion about the points i raised<br /><br />thanks<br /><br />Joydeep Ghoshjoydeep ghoshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00038225081192821456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-50033602870047470602013-08-13T00:24:21.285-07:002013-08-13T00:24:21.285-07:00Shuklaji,
I don't understand why there is so ...Shuklaji, <br />I don't understand why there is so much celebration about the term of so called 'launching ' of INS Vikrant. The ship is half built without take down runway,jets, incomplete rear end, control deck,etc. I can say that this ship is years behind from getting inducted in the navy. It has to undergo sea trials, weapons trials, landing trials, etc. After that the main task is fault finding & taking necessary actions to correct it. The navy officials itself says that it will be battle ready by 2020 or beyond. The ceremonies are totally time waste & money waste. It may have been done for election campaign & to give a message to China. But frankly speaking it will serve no purpose. If in a year or two if China attacks India then what purpose this Vikrant will serve. Only 1 big ceremony is to be organised when it finally gets inducted otherwise next we will hear pipe laying ceremony,colouring ceremony,etc. Apart from this we have become fed up hearing of so called trials & layings & testings of tejas & arihant. RDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-60399489923115632772013-08-12T18:52:13.675-07:002013-08-12T18:52:13.675-07:00A modular reactor unit in the center of the ship w...A modular reactor unit in the center of the ship would be the idea choice. <br /><br />The reactor/s unit can simply be swapped out during refit and a new reactor unit fully fueled can be swapped in its place. Of course this will need to be a principle design consideration if they want to go nuclear and save themselves the need for 3 month refits/ refueling. <br /><br />However, even without this - the average time between refueling for a nuclear powered vessel is about 30 years. So the problem of extended time for refueling is quite moot to begin with. <br /><br />The only REAL consideration is the cost - benefit analysis that the Navy needs to make. It shouldn't be about "ego" or "prestige" but purely on tactical and operational advantages and financial considerations. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com