tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post4455144015012054211..comments2024-03-23T09:25:42.029-07:00Comments on Broadsword by Ajai Shukla - Strategy. Economics. Defence.: After Rafale splurge, a sensible Jaguar upgrade (a two-part report)Broadswordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13076780076240598482noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-70594869697426060232018-05-28T07:30:55.246-07:002018-05-28T07:30:55.246-07:00Another proof that IAF usually extracts the last b...Another proof that IAF usually extracts the last bit of juice from all its assets.<br />We simply curse them for buying Rafale ! See they will be flying Rafale even on 2055 !<br />Hope they get another 72 of them. <br /><br />Buying US stuff is dangerous. Look at their latest rules for sanctions on russian and Iranian .<br /><br />HAL will do anything if some money is shown, I hope they can do these engine changes properly.<br /><br />To that extent it would have been better to choose RR Mk871, even if a little inferior.<br />Any technical comparison of the two, Mk871 and F125IN ? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-3980243696730730622018-05-26T09:16:51.007-07:002018-05-26T09:16:51.007-07:00Will a 10% increase in dry thrust from 25 kN to 27...Will a 10% increase in dry thrust from 25 kN to 27.7 kN really change the performance of the Jaguar phenomenally, so much so that it will change the perception of the pilots who joked that <b>"Jaguar’s current engines are so underpowered that the fighter only gets airborne because the earth is round"</b>? That increase in thrust doesn't sound like a convincing improvement to me. I would request experts in the field to share how much that will translate in to real world performance and by what quantifiable margin like increase in maximum take off weight, speed of climb, service ceiling, speed of the plane etc.chandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12612113568155817480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-16642140856497545802018-05-25T23:48:22.417-07:002018-05-25T23:48:22.417-07:00Mig 29 is designed as air 2 air fighter and is gre...Mig 29 is designed as air 2 air fighter and is great at its job. But it cant carry heavy ordnance. <br /><br />Mig 29k is just a naval variant of the same aircraft with some modifications on its lower body to make it durable for carrier landings. Navy only intends to use it as a fleet air defence role with the naval ships in the fleet doing surface attacks. <br /><br />F18 or rafale M are different they have reasonable air to air capability and can carry heavy ordnance too. <br /><br />Anti ship missles are heavy as they carry lot of fuel to reach and explosive to destroy a huge warship. <br /><br />Hence in India which focusses only in our surroundings IAF jets can launchbfrom land and attack enemy naval vessels. The jaguar is a 'deep'strike aircraft. Its designed for A2G role and its weak engine make it great for range and load carrying capacity. So its the best air craft to be used as a anti ship missile taxi in the indian ocean. It will fly low and slow where no radar can catch it. On its way back it can be protected by other fighters (mig 29k or something else)<br /><br />Jean Luc Picardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07523465808756925391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-87153025711733941932018-05-24T18:22:28.466-07:002018-05-24T18:22:28.466-07:00What happened to HTFE 25 and did someone try to de...What happened to HTFE 25 and did someone try to develop after burning version of the same and test it quickly and fit one engine in Jaguars , the older versions and try it out, simultaneously develop HTFE 40 and install 1 engine in jaguar and then develop the after burning version and jaguar would be a winner . It can dogfight F 16 the versions which Pakistan. You can easily 4 maybe 5 squadrons till AMCA arrives. I feel if they really fit F 125 engine then all this make in india is useless exercise. They should try HTFE 25 engine immediately now and advance. If they don’t succeed first time the plane without any load with less than half fuel can land back on one engine. <br /><br />I feel there is something horribly wrong and there is incoardination in different agencies. No one is their to priorities the need and it I had full powers I would take a DO 228 and attach the engine on the dorsal surface and test it in a month. If it succeeds then fit one in jaguar and then in HJT 36 and immediately at top priority develop H TFE 40 and fit it’s it is test it as it would produce dry thrust equal to the wet thrust developed by Adour 811. I would add after burning version later as and when it gets fully devoted. I would use HTFE 25 extensive in two engine conjugation on Saras and test it extensively . If some one gives just 200 million and 20 good engineers I would do it for jaguar and make it operational in less than 3 years.<br />That way you get engine for HJT 36 , jaguar , hawk , and for civilian aircrafts.<br />TIMBAKTOOAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-62530418067258493312018-05-24T15:46:26.438-07:002018-05-24T15:46:26.438-07:00HAL is underestimating or simply lying to get this...HAL is underestimating or simply lying to get this contract. It’s very difficult to install a new engine without significant modifications in airframe. Higher weight also necessitates adjustments to COG etc. Seems like another project to nowhere for HAL. May be Honeywell is showing honey to HAL directors to make them buy expensive engines just like Saturn of Russia did for IJT Sitara- AI-55I engines are rusting at HAL since 2009!<br />Jaguars are old and out of active duty from everywhere except India and Oman. There isn’t much to gain by adding brand new engine to airframes with 15 years max! Due to its design limitations, Jaguar cannot win a dogfight with any multirole aircraft even with new engine and ASRAAM.Dujacnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-76367067377059018102018-05-24T07:58:27.037-07:002018-05-24T07:58:27.037-07:00
Finally........I remember reading a Report by you...<br />Finally........I remember reading a Report by you on this issue a couple of years ago !!<br /><br />I just sincerely hope something actually happens..Ramannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-78453423002774254192018-05-24T03:17:18.460-07:002018-05-24T03:17:18.460-07:00IAF pilots joke that the Jaguar’s current engines ...<b>IAF pilots joke that the Jaguar’s current engines are so underpowered that the fighter only gets airborne because the earth is round – and its curvature makes the ground drop away beneath the moving aircraft.</b><br />Ha ha ha......the IAF Pilots surely know the criticality of take off weight; their own selection was made possible thanks to their unique anatomy which spared them the additional dead weight of a cranium and the biological matter associated with it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-71618583802575677012018-05-24T00:30:20.489-07:002018-05-24T00:30:20.489-07:00@ajai sir
just two question
1. why keep Jagaur ...@ajai sir<br /><br />just two question <br /><br />1. why keep Jagaur jets for maritime strike role, this job can be done by Mig 29k jets<br /><br />2. removing them from maritime strike role will give IAF more Jaguars as deep strike jets<br /><br />thanks<br /><br />Joydeep Ghoshjoydeep ghoshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00038225081192821456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-80392132139029961302018-05-23T23:44:52.523-07:002018-05-23T23:44:52.523-07:00This long-delayed project, which was resurrected l...<b> This long-delayed project, which was resurrected last month, involves replacing the Jaguar’s underpowered engines.</b><br />This is another red herring; like the RFP for 126 fighters. And it can be confirmed to be so on the double, given that it involves a US manufacturer. How will the GoI justify this contract given that the Americans are back to their old sanctioning self with India? On the Rafale, most defence commentators continue to misinterpret it as a purchase when the deal is in fact a journey interspersed with numerous milestones along the way for a nascent domestic aerospace industry. Rafale will enter the IAF in numbers, with increased domestic content over time and ultimately help eject the Russians out of the IAF. Geopolitically too, it makes sense for a rising power like India to make common cause with a middle power like France, with whom it has no frictions than seek the friendship of a major power like the US, who'll seek to subjugate or like Russia, with who India has very little, if any, in common.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-68461980220951631602018-05-23T22:41:35.084-07:002018-05-23T22:41:35.084-07:00Why not explore Govt GTRE GTX35 for the same? Is i...Why not explore Govt GTRE GTX35 for the same? Is it not right fit... Can any Aero Expert in this blog do one Analysis that may help understand if it fits or not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-35935519308370214162018-05-23T22:26:15.092-07:002018-05-23T22:26:15.092-07:00doesn't seem like a big increase in thrust.
C...doesn't seem like a big increase in thrust.<br /><br />CujoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com