tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post3564011688901007592..comments2024-03-14T06:10:14.591-07:00Comments on Broadsword by Ajai Shukla - Strategy. Economics. Defence.: Broadsword quiz: a comparative evaluation of these two photosBroadswordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13076780076240598482noreply@blogger.comBlogger63125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-42876646083739062592012-01-26T03:31:50.860-08:002012-01-26T03:31:50.860-08:00you are right ajay ji I had cross check the photo ...you are right ajay ji I had cross check the photo these is Photoshoped and crossed between(if true) VT 2000 and type 99A2<br />as in VT 2000 gas exhaust is on rear end but on type 99A2 it is left side as shown in the pics.Sarabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14326465781619284756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-580165491093844672012-01-25T05:02:57.020-08:002012-01-25T05:02:57.020-08:00BROADSWORD ANSWER:
NOBODY'S GOT IT ABSOLUTELY...BROADSWORD ANSWER:<br /><br />NOBODY'S GOT IT ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. THE CORRECT ANSWER IS:<br /><br />THE PHOTO ON THE LEFT IS (FROM A SERIES THAT APPEARED IN THE CHINESE MEDIA) THE ZTZ-99A2 (TYPE 99A2) MBT. ACCORDING TO THE CHINESE MEDIA, IT WAS PHOTOGRAPHED IN SHANXI (THEIR VERSION OF JHANSI?)... BUT MY ANALYSIS SUGGESTS THAT THIS WAS A PHOTO-OP AND NOT REALLY PICS OF ACTUAL TRANSPORTATION.<br /><br />FIRSTLY, IT ISN'T A GREAT IDEA TO TRANSPORT TANKS WITHOUT ANCHOR CHAINS ON EITHER END. IF THE TRAIN NEEDS TO APPLY ITS VACUUM BRAKES, THE TANKS WILL ROLL OVER THE CHOCKS AND POTENTIALLY OVERTURN THE WAGON.<br /><br />SECONDLY, NO CAVALRY WORTH ITS SALT TRANSPORTS TANKS WITHOUT ANY FORM OF PROTECTIVE COVERING. WHAT HAPPENS IF IT RAINS? WHAT HAPPENS IF THERE'S DUST?<br /><br />SO IT'S A PHOTO OP.<br /><br />I DON'T BUY ANY OF THE BULLSHIT ABOUT A 1500 HP GAS TURBINE AND ACTIVE PROTECTION SYSTEM. THIS IS A PRETTIED-UP T-62 OR T-72... THE BASIC OUTLINES OF THE TANK ARE QUITE EVIDENT BELOW ALL THAT FANCY SLOPED ARMOUR.<br /><br />----------------<br /><br />THE TANKS ON THE RIGHT ARE INDIAN ARMY T-72s, PHOTOGRAPHED AT PATHANKOTE RAILWAY STATION. THEY ARE ON THEIR WAY BACK FROM FIRING AT THE MAHAJAN FIELD FIRING RANGES.Broadswordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13076780076240598482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-88697193145940551932012-01-24T07:15:38.280-08:002012-01-24T07:15:38.280-08:00@Anon 24 January 2012 13:53,
Google 'Battle ...@Anon 24 January 2012 13:53,<br /><br />Google 'Battle of Asal Uttar' or 'Battle of Chawinda'or read the accounts of the India -Pakistan 1965 war before passing further comments.<br />Our army is one of the few that has given US made tanks a beating.<br />And why involve the Poles?<br /><br />Are there not enough jokes on them already!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-14530795850823191692012-01-24T00:23:57.612-08:002012-01-24T00:23:57.612-08:00@Annon 23 January 2012 23:27
you siad :
"The...@Annon 23 January 2012 23:27<br /> you siad :<br />"The Indo-Pak wars have seen some of the fiercest and biggest tank battles post ww2 "<br /><br />Do not such a laughing stock.. bad pictures and bad demonstrative effect has no excuses..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-65637731997653750982012-01-23T09:57:12.736-08:002012-01-23T09:57:12.736-08:00@Anon 22.01.2012 20:52,
The Indo-Pak wars have see...@Anon 22.01.2012 20:52,<br />The Indo-Pak wars have seen some of the fiercest and biggest tank battles post ww2,something that the poles have not done.The most the poles did with their tanks was dance to the Russian bear in warsaw pact exercises or now under NATO command.<br /><br />And these tanks are returning to home base after exercises,where they will undergo the required maintenance.<br /><br />Has anyone seen the deserts where these guys exercise and the conditions there.And whet is the value of water there,which is put to better use than wash on mud.These are not shiny trinkets and toys.When the occasion requires they are as shiny and showy as anyone of the shiny pansies out here want.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-50938507558366218572012-01-23T09:50:55.424-08:002012-01-23T09:50:55.424-08:00Whats with this weird thing on chains and parking ...Whats with this weird thing on chains and parking brakes!!!I see chocks on the Chinese tanks which probably do the anchoring for them.Chains are perfectly standard.Since a lot of guys here seem to relish 'foran stuff', here is how the US do it.<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVlteGzH004&feature=related<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZStjcykl0QQ#!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-70872712072284680072012-01-22T08:23:55.401-08:002012-01-22T08:23:55.401-08:00Left: Chinese Tanks nicely maintained and clean. T...Left: Chinese Tanks nicely maintained and clean. Travelling in covered carriages with parking brakes.<br /><br />Right: Indian Tanks badly maintained and dirty. Travelling in uncovered carriages without parking brakes and covered with just piece of cloth.Supersalluhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16861709660487242994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-36603832207567682872012-01-22T07:22:59.795-08:002012-01-22T07:22:59.795-08:00Picture on left shows that somebody from CPC withd...Picture on left shows that somebody from CPC withdrew $100 million of Chinese taxpayer money and gave piles of scrap-metal to China which even the Hungarian army will giggle at.<br /><br />Picture on right shows that somebody from Cong(I) withdrew $100 million of Indian taxpayer money and gave piles of scrap-metal to India which even the Polish army will giggle at.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-19347250788637817582012-01-21T01:50:05.488-08:002012-01-21T01:50:05.488-08:00now let us have broadsword's take..now let us have broadsword's take..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-33386752813567123382012-01-21T00:43:03.932-08:002012-01-21T00:43:03.932-08:00Chinese tanks are being powered by Gas Turbine Eng...Chinese tanks are being powered by Gas Turbine Engines see air intake ar back. Indian are conventional diesel.Kahlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07157064825441949960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-24498542701533825782012-01-20T19:30:12.578-08:002012-01-20T19:30:12.578-08:00Ist picture-- is in North Korea...and second most ...Ist picture-- is in North Korea...and second most likely Indiarjnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-68628977524966427462012-01-20T14:14:03.984-08:002012-01-20T14:14:03.984-08:001st Pic: From the yard and overhead catenary layou...1st Pic: From the yard and overhead catenary layout you can clearly tell it's a foreign set up most likely chinese,<br />2nd Pic: TinCan -72s being transported by a CR rake most likely into or out of Babina Cantt near JhansiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-43463006733447587232012-01-20T10:06:25.437-08:002012-01-20T10:06:25.437-08:00The first one is chinese mobilization of the tanks...The first one is chinese mobilization of the tanks. One can tell by their looks how frequntly and fantasticly they are maintained by the chinese. I have often seen while to n fro from pune, that the T72 are parked on the unused tracks covered by a cloth. seems that our tanks are only maintained during war time. other wise garaged in open. This bad maintanance is exactly what left us bafffled during operation parakram as well as during retaliation strikes in wake of 26 11<br />I think we need to take care of our military hardware in a much much better way should we need less preparation time in wake of militry confrontationsVishal A. Shahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09650501919888023124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-24070950511961471112012-01-20T06:45:47.733-08:002012-01-20T06:45:47.733-08:00http://chinesemilitaryreview.blogspot.com/2011/12/...http://chinesemilitaryreview.blogspot.com/2011/12/chinese-peoples-liberation-army-ztz.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-77604631311185112622012-01-20T06:28:22.658-08:002012-01-20T06:28:22.658-08:00the chinese tank has already been IDed..the indian...the chinese tank has already been IDed..the indian one seems to be the T-72<br /><br />the chinese tanks are APPARENTLY being transported w/o any sort of covering..i say so cause these are new tanks of the latest chinese type and might have been uncovered for photographing the same (jingo PR), but might travel covered otherwise<br /><br />the indian tanks are covered, and this serves multiple purposes, the most basic being protection against the elements..further reasons that might seem trivial include protection against arsonists, and one less opportunity for inimical interests to photograph assets for feeding the databases that can be used to guide ATGMs (IP)..<br /><br />on the other hand, one would hope that the covers would be (periodically?) taken off once they enter more populated areas, for the sole purpose of some jingo PR of our own..<br /><br />to some it appears as if the chinese tanks aren't pinned to the cars..take a closer look at pics here-<br /><br />http://trishul-trident.blogspot.com/2012/01/chinas-latest-mbt-sports-1500hp-gas.html<br /><br />pinning the tanks would be considered a simple contingency should something happen to the train itself...Decapitatenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-85578744539910367842012-01-20T06:24:09.291-08:002012-01-20T06:24:09.291-08:00To me it looks like that the Chinese Tanks are Gas...To me it looks like that the Chinese Tanks are Gas Turbine driven (from the Air-Intakes at the aft end)<br />Indian Tanks conventional diesel powered.Armourmightnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-88842891210968001942012-01-20T03:36:35.260-08:002012-01-20T03:36:35.260-08:00It is new Chinese tank that is being transported. ...It is new Chinese tank that is being transported. The other picture is features Tank in India.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-86203403986966946892012-01-20T03:32:03.245-08:002012-01-20T03:32:03.245-08:00First Pic: Chinese MBT ZTZ99A2, Some where in Chin...First Pic: Chinese MBT ZTZ99A2, Some where in China, Not tied with chains on the railway trailer, Seems some kind of brake feature available.<br /><br />Second Pic: Indian T-72 Tanks, Transported with Central railways, tied well with chains, also covered with Tarpaulin sheets. When a regiments moves in India, few officers & jawans also accompany the train as usual they have to accommodate on the trailers only.<br /><br />Indian railway track is broad gauge 1,676 mm (5 ft 6 in). <br />While Chinese seems to be bit small as it is Standard Gauge 1,435 mm (4 ft 8 1⁄2 in).<br />Does this have any significance in the load carrying capacity of the track. Also the Chinese tanks are not having any overlying edges on the side as the Indian T 72's (2-5 inches)Rishi Singhnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-29564234958237317162012-01-19T18:47:23.255-08:002012-01-19T18:47:23.255-08:00The Chinki tanks have parking brakes. Hence no dip...The Chinki tanks have parking brakes. Hence no dip in the rail carriages.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-84795459213162337932012-01-19T17:47:40.161-08:002012-01-19T17:47:40.161-08:00Left pic: Bulk production being carried out at Inn...Left pic: Bulk production being carried out at Inner-Mongolia First Machinery Group Corp (also known as (617 Factory) in Baotou, Inner Mongolia for the People Liberation Army's 62-tonne, 1500hp transverse-mounted gas turbine, ZTZ-99A2 main battle tanks tank after 3 years of user-trials.<br /><br />Right Pic: T-72M1 Ajeya which will be undergoing upgrades under Operation Rhino plan.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-89249982726547349482012-01-19T17:37:22.919-08:002012-01-19T17:37:22.919-08:00ones t-72 by the worn out and beaten down appearan...ones t-72 by the worn out and beaten down appearance. if not its t-90and the other one's Arjun. the first pic is definitely russian due to the low profile of the tank and other arjun with the bigger profile. the broad appearence of arjun is a indication of western style leopard 2 earlier model.. dont think there is more to this than this answer. by the way know when MMRCA going to end mr Suhkla?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-29399145216908790632012-01-19T17:24:41.251-08:002012-01-19T17:24:41.251-08:00Tanking up the trains??Tanking up the trains??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-39642054740243405012012-01-19T16:59:29.029-08:002012-01-19T16:59:29.029-08:00http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90786/7691166.ht...http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90786/7691166.html<br /><br />Chinese MBT ZTZ99A2<br />New Chinese Tank..on peoples daily news.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-10727894214400085172012-01-19T16:14:59.868-08:002012-01-19T16:14:59.868-08:00It is arjun and other one is T72 tanksIt is arjun and other one is T72 tanksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-27162799366044565482012-01-19T16:12:07.471-08:002012-01-19T16:12:07.471-08:00My analysis:
Photo-1:
- Country: P.R. China.
- Rai...My analysis:<br />Photo-1:<br />- Country: P.R. China.<br />- Railway: Qinghai-Tibet railway.<br />- Tanks: Type-99 MBT.<br />- Air-quality: Clean.<br /><br />Photo-2:<br />- Country: India<br />- Railway: Central Railway.<br />- Tanks: T-90<br />- Air-quality: Polluted.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com