tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post3469175862163386889..comments2024-03-28T05:22:10.255-07:00Comments on Broadsword by Ajai Shukla - Strategy. Economics. Defence.: How Rafale is killing the air force’s futureBroadswordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13076780076240598482noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-61930362390066096422015-02-17T13:53:09.638-08:002015-02-17T13:53:09.638-08:00I agree and disagree. I am in agreement with the a...I agree and disagree. I am in agreement with the author that the IAF has been overly and completely obsessed with the MMRCA acquisition and in the process neglected other projects such as the FGFA and the indigenous AMCA project for far too long. <br />I disagree with the author as far as what the IAF should take on as its top priority at the moment. The IAF, as many have rightly pointed out, be most engaged in making sure that the AMCA project takes off well, now that we have all learnt from the mistakes and successes of the LCA program. That's in the best interests of the services and the nation. Heck we can let our upgraded Mirage2Ks and Mig-29 UPGs fill in the MMRCA gap until the AMCAs are ready to roll somewhere around 2025. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-68506527083496246152015-02-17T13:45:16.982-08:002015-02-17T13:45:16.982-08:00tdblog@yahoo.com:
Very well said and am happy abp...tdblog@yahoo.com:<br /><br />Very well said and am happy abput this being an article where you haven't mentioned cutting down rafale in favour of F35.<br /><br />No country is just going to get up and give away critical knowledge...air frame design...radar and missile tech are some of these.<br /><br />I agree that the time to hit is ripe...Russia is in need and we should optimise nor expoit this situation. Overbending on US should be avoided...they will never share any non common tech with anybody.<br /><br />FGFA sud be a replacement to Rafale...and for once let is all Indians park our ego out of this so called joint production...pls push the money and get this beasts delivered and than make HAL overhaul it completely.<br /><br />kaveri sud be restarted if we are ever to build an engine for a fighter aircraft.<br /><br />abhiman u must be joking dump all and make amca...i hope u are updates abt tejas lca...need I say more!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-50340004283103024392015-02-17T12:30:02.504-08:002015-02-17T12:30:02.504-08:00Colonel,
can you please give credits regarding t...Colonel, <br /><br />can you please give credits regarding the picture ?<br /><br />The Runway is definitely in India. <br />please give details about the craft itself. <br /><br />Is this a photoshopped or by some miracle has a two seater PAK-FA landed in India ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-67391723769959297212015-02-17T10:57:45.490-08:002015-02-17T10:57:45.490-08:00Hello Ajai
Is the pic in your article of a real i...Hello Ajai<br /><br />Is the pic in your article of a real item, or is it a product of photoshop?<br /><br />It is a very smart looking aircraft<br /><br />Thanks<br /><br />JaiJainoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-38231966824606023612015-02-17T08:57:32.665-08:002015-02-17T08:57:32.665-08:00Rafale represents a good choice to buy. then IAF s...Rafale represents a good choice to buy. then IAF should not order Jaguar re-engine program. LCA can be ordered in batches in 40-50 of Mk1. Mk-2 etc.<br />With this IAF will have decent modern planes in a lot of categories : transport (C17, C130), HElicopters (Dhruv and variants, MI17) , AEW (EMB145, Phalcon), Basic Trainer (Pilatus)<br />What we need LUH, LCA, LAH and LTA in large numbers.<br />We can forget HAL to deliver BTT or IJT in foreseeable future. it is a paper plane when IAF wanted something flying desperately Itnis important students have good trainer to being flying. Why don't we see this point.<br /><br />When you publish on article on completions dates of all existing HAL development projects ? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-15831828030365998062015-02-17T07:27:33.853-08:002015-02-17T07:27:33.853-08:00By the way Rafale cannot supercruise and has not t...By the way Rafale cannot supercruise and has not the performances to counter effectively Chinese Su-30 and Su-27. Is just a fighter-bomber for operations in benign scenarios as its DASS is not that advanced.<br />Wrong choice for India. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-80081106514297792772015-02-17T06:38:01.019-08:002015-02-17T06:38:01.019-08:00Dump both Rafale and FGFA and concentrate on LCA&l...Dump both Rafale and FGFA and concentrate on LCA< UCAV & AMCAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-28663714970524850292015-02-17T01:58:16.835-08:002015-02-17T01:58:16.835-08:00French Rafale MRCA were the best possible purchase...French Rafale MRCA were the best possible purchase for India. All types of requisite tests were successfully performed on them and they came out as the most suitable against the tender requirements. In case if this deal is not materialized then for the desired multi-role purposes of air superiority, deep interdiction, close air support and strike, 63 Nos of SU-34 in combination with 63 Nos of SU-30 MKI may be the best alternative. However, all these SU-30/34 may need to be equipped with the latest AESA radars.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-71435130814063583302015-02-17T01:13:05.061-08:002015-02-17T01:13:05.061-08:00IAF strongly believes that a bird in hand(Rafale) ...IAF strongly believes that a bird in hand(Rafale) is better than two in the bush(LCA & FGFA).<br />They cant really be blamed if they get butterflies in the stomach on seeing their future in the hands of DRDO and HAL.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-78551220719023515392015-02-17T01:01:57.891-08:002015-02-17T01:01:57.891-08:00Sir, I'm appalled to think that the Russian FG...Sir, I'm appalled to think that the Russian FGFA could be IAF's "future".<br /><br />The FGFA is nothing but yet another import disguised as "joint development". The puny "joint work" that India is supposed to is confined to tinkering the Russian PAK-FA to make it into an Indian FGFA.<br /><br />Now how much of this work is really significant ? Let's see. From all available reports, NONE at all. The engines, radar, avionics, stealth design, materials, the works, remain wholly Russian. HAL will merely contribute in adding a new seat behind the pilot (and even this work stands cancelled what with the proposal of 144 single-seaters !!!)<br /><br /><b>India's share is at most like a mechanic's appendage to a car, such as a new seat-belt or upholstery. It does NOT by any yardstick, constitute "joint development" of any kind. In fact, if IAF/MoD have any sense left, they'd better publicly declare this is an outright purchase, and that India has ZERO contributions to make in this. Otherwise comparisons will be made with the F-35, a truly joint effort (UK contributed to the engines and STOL, Israel chipped in with electronic warfare systems, etc.)</b><br /><br />I think the IAF's future is the indigenous AMCA. This addresses all the IAF's major issues:<br /><br /><b>1)</b> Since IAF will be in the loop from the drawing board, AMCA can be tailor-made to IAF's specifications from the very start. Just contrast this with the PAK-FA. So far it has been made as per Russian specifications only. Its already built, test-flown and readied without a whiff of the IAF all these years. Now if IAF wants any change, it'll have to go through a long and arduous process of going back to the Russians, begging them for design prints, manufacturing processes and the like.<br /><br /><b>And the end product will be a compromise, like a ready-made pant altered to fit. On the other hand, the AMCA will be tailor-made from the first cut !<br /><br />2)</b> The AMCA will be unique to IAF. In contrast, Russia is planning to export the PAK-FA to many countries in South America, East Europe, SE Asia etc. So, pilots of any Indian adversary can easily tie-up with these nations, learn about the PAK-FA's weaknesses and strengths, and formulate a strategy on how to beat it in battle.<br /><br />Here the AMCA has a distinct advantage. Not only will it be an enigma to Indian adversaries, it will give IAF ample room to formulate hitherto innovative tactics.<br /><br /><b>4</b> AMCA will be sanction-proof. We all know the tortuous negotiations with Russia over petty things like spares for MiGs, tech transfer for Su-30 and T-90 tanks, etc. Do we wish to go down that rabbit-hole once again ? If yes, by all means import the PAK-FA.<br /><br />But if IAF wishes to be truly independent, it must put its weight behind the AMCA. At any time, any IAF concern will be catered to within India with no geopolitics, lengthy contracts, or dollar exchange rates coming into the picture.<br /><br /><b>4</b> AMCA will boost the indigenous industry. The benefits of this point have been discussed numerous times earlier, and needn't be repeated.<br /><br />How many more points to convince about AMCA's benefits over the Russian FGFA ?<br />___________________<br /><br /><b>Let's ditch the PAK-FA. Let's invest in the AMCA. </b>Abhimannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-78806738795445199492015-02-17T00:31:14.010-08:002015-02-17T00:31:14.010-08:00Colonel,
Well thought out and well written articl...Colonel, <br />Well thought out and well written article. <br />The best approach would be to procure the Qatari and/or UAE mirages and supplement with MiG-35. <br /><br />Focus on the following <br />FGFA - Top Tier <br />Su30 MKI - Heavies<br />Mirage 2K - MMRCA<br />Mig-35 MMRCA<br />Tejas Mk 2<br />Tejas Mk 1 - Light and tactical <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-68432440206073364992015-02-16T21:08:12.986-08:002015-02-16T21:08:12.986-08:00In IAF I stands... Indian... its Air Marshals.. re...In IAF I stands... Indian... its Air Marshals.. replacing tissues... with their... tongues... for anything... foreign... european... american... Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-70960469604752201102015-02-16T18:44:49.880-08:002015-02-16T18:44:49.880-08:00Colonel,
Superb article. If it was China, they w...Colonel, <br /><br />Superb article. If it was China, they would be manufacturing six prototypes of this aircraft by now. They understand the value of opportunity while in India, we like to talk big but do precisely little. I feel the IAF will drag its feet as long as possible. Any Indian move towards FGFA will only happen if Mr Parrikar puts his foot down. <br /><br />Alas! he seems to be an honest but gullible man and is being taken for ride as many times as possible by IAF. Not only that, this Rafale contract is gradually slowing down contract conclusion in other services as well.SKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-19806015203074720612015-02-16T18:18:19.679-08:002015-02-16T18:18:19.679-08:00The Air Force and the Army realy needs to follow t...The Air Force and the Army realy needs to follow the Navy in developing indigenous manufacturing capability. The smallest arm is on track to becoming a home planned and manufactured navy but the other two arms still do not expend any effort to negate the benefit of indigenous efforts. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-91605254850737450302015-02-16T17:43:10.335-08:002015-02-16T17:43:10.335-08:00100% agree100% agreeBhagya$hreehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02434854122639050746noreply@blogger.com