tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post1699232270572266362..comments2024-03-29T05:44:18.835-07:00Comments on Broadsword by Ajai Shukla - Strategy. Economics. Defence.: The Henderson Brooks Report, Part II: Defiant Henderson Brooks pursued his own enquiry rather than a whitewash jobBroadswordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13076780076240598482noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-79385576148184616342014-03-20T12:05:42.126-07:002014-03-20T12:05:42.126-07:00People don't understand how much Jawahar lal N...People don't understand how much Jawahar lal Nehru and Indira Gandhi foresight was at that point of time - it is easy to cast aspersions on them - but the fact is that there are hardly 1 or 2 people in politics /army or civil services whose character and intelligence can come close to JLN/IG. JLN established the scientific foundation for the entire country - for 40 years there were only 5 IITs even when people like MMS/Narsimha rao/VP Singh were PM for long years. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-9329576154240210172014-03-20T12:00:56.826-07:002014-03-20T12:00:56.826-07:00The fact and truth was that India gave refuge to D...The fact and truth was that India gave refuge to Dalai Lama and Tibetan followers - I really don't understand why no one talks about it - it is like Pakistan supporting Hafiz Saeed and Dawood Ibrahim (quite obviously these two humans are not being compared to Hon Dalai), second was China going thru Mao upheaval, over population and identity crisis - combined that with immature politics and military of those yearsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-67129662918216210062014-03-20T07:53:34.491-07:002014-03-20T07:53:34.491-07:00When intentionally this guy from Australia reveals...When intentionally this guy from Australia reveals this report which he had since 1970 and whose basis he published a book " India's China war' as if India was to blame for the war. Nehru miscalculated the Chinese intentions and the Army Hqtrs was not doing its job under General Thapar because of the Kaul over ride. But it cannot escape the blame as also the political and intelligence brass of that time.Now when this report comes every one thinks what is written 50 yrears ago is all truth but nothing but the truth. As a person who served in ladakh I know how we were out Gneralled and out soldiered by Chinese who overan our posts which were dominating Chinese positions from Gurun Hill, gun Hill and Rezanla etc.Chinese were located in lower Sapngur gap and Rezang lumpa posts but still they surprised us due to better tactics and acclimitisation.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02774636105865916484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-18223245750947446962014-03-20T02:53:20.553-07:002014-03-20T02:53:20.553-07:00Dear Ajay,
It is not a question of sensationaliz...Dear Ajay,<br /><br /> It is not a question of sensationalizing reports of 50yrs back. Its a question of learning from it and looking 50 yrs hence. Unlike India, China is not looking 5 yrs ahead but 50-75 yrs and may be more. To be complacent with the thought that China has no ambitions in Arunachal or Ladhak would be putting a blinder over our eyes and in the same league and insight of BM Mullic.<br /> We actually like to believe what we want to believe- a foolhardy and suicidal way.We seem to have a misplaced sense of security. Do we even a long term Security Strategy?Can any of our leaders including the so called stalwarts spell out where they see the country 50 yrs from now. I don't think so.Let the Media ask any one of them and you will see what I mean. The country can ill afford to pay the price for poor or no Strategic thinking and clear perception at the highest political level.We must look forward but having learnt from the past.Rajindernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-31191544130399003032014-03-20T01:47:17.156-07:002014-03-20T01:47:17.156-07:00I fail to understand why is every none so defensiv...I fail to understand why is every none so defensive about the whole episode ,yes we made mistakes and there is nothing wrong with that. For 50 years we have been in the impression that the war was always Chinas fault. We need to know the truth, we need to know . Our generation has this blind hatred based on deception and lies,we are no different from the Pakistanis in that regard.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-11062604459540216992014-03-20T01:18:08.277-07:002014-03-20T01:18:08.277-07:00How easy it is to shift the blame entirely on the ...How easy it is to shift the blame entirely on the politicians and brush off any responsibility for the debacle by Army?<br /><br />Its very similar to shift all blames on A K Antony for all naval mishaps while not blaming any naval officer for it. <br /><br />Time for the services to do a rethink and understand that they are inches away from a probable determined RM to bring a significant change in their merry-go-round.Rajnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-64457543413251191192014-03-19T21:21:56.552-07:002014-03-19T21:21:56.552-07:00Where is the link to Part-II of the report?Where is the link to Part-II of the report?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-50371173816599874552014-03-19T20:59:57.901-07:002014-03-19T20:59:57.901-07:00too many dhabbas.... nehru-gandi... dynastic life....too many dhabbas.... nehru-gandi... dynastic life... blood stains... not growing out... sacrificing... indian blood dots... too much in nehru-gandhi dynasty... life... Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-39560176918678594982014-03-19T19:41:22.152-07:002014-03-19T19:41:22.152-07:00Dear Ajay,
Exclusion of the names and investigati...Dear Ajay,<br /><br />Exclusion of the names and investigation into their vital roles, such as :<br /><br />Holy Cow Chacha Jawahar Lal<br /><br />Krishna Menon who wanted revolution in India<br /><br />BM Mullic, DIB, the policemen who decided military tactics and strategy<br /><br />MJ Desai, the Foreign foreign Secretary<br /><br />Missing Army Chief VM Thapar<br /><br />The then Defence Secretary<br /><br />Etc Etc<br /><br />Does not surprise you<br /><br />Your focus on Army HQ is prejudiced as Army HQ did not function or not allowed to function by the Murties mentioned above. There was no records kept of the meeting at Defence Minister of Foreign Ministers office. There was no record as to how the government of the day arrived at a decision on "Forward Policy" !<br /><br />And now you are trying to bash up Army HQ which virtually did not exist. BM Koul had virtually become the Army Chief of Nehru and Menon. The Army HQ was sabotaged... Army not allowed into Western sector controlled by BN Mullic .. who was performing as theatre Commander... organising rag tag forward posts to throw out the Chinese and his post would be run over within an hour and his policemen ambushed everywhere.<br /><br />Now you are finding a needle in the haystacks.. of the Army HQ !<br /><br />Well done !!<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-54888812219351402942014-03-19T18:29:18.036-07:002014-03-19T18:29:18.036-07:00You are right in your assessment, even now no less...You are right in your assessment, even now no lesson seems to have been learnt.loyality to whom ? Army, political masters, or country , these questions still are not tackled . There is a misplaced concept of loyality , which hides truth and vital lessons to be learnt . We are paying the price for this.Subhashnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-71409515994205640502014-03-19T18:20:12.591-07:002014-03-19T18:20:12.591-07:00This is clearly revealed now because of the upcomi...This is clearly revealed now because of the upcoming elections. So the timing is not good. Anyway all of us have moved on from 1962 - so raising these issues actually should be a non-issue. I was part of study group in 1996 which studied chinese view point of 1962. I don't think in 2014 and beyond, they have any ambition to deal with people of NE who are more or less very closely tied to Indian mainstream - India is not Ukraine and China is no Russia. Anyway sensationalizing reports written 50 years back is not going to benefit anybody. It is time to look forward. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com