tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post1556956882429246705..comments2024-03-14T06:10:14.591-07:00Comments on Broadsword by Ajai Shukla - Strategy. Economics. Defence.: Defence minister issues 5-point rebuttal of Rafale accusationsBroadswordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13076780076240598482noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-66720539776257704672017-11-22T11:25:20.302-08:002017-11-22T11:25:20.302-08:00Rafael deals for Egypt and offer for Brazil were s...Rafael deals for Egypt and offer for Brazil were similar in terms and support packages to Indian deal with Dassault. Please feel free to google. Brazil was offered $8.3 billion for 24 Rafales. Folha de Sao Paolo reports that it was the most expensive of the 3 finalists, with a price tag of about $8.2 billion US dollars (13.3 billion Reals), plus $4 billion in maintenance contracts over the next 30 years. In February 2015, France agreed to deliver 24 Rafale fighter jets to Egypt at a cost of € 5.2 billion.<br />Now, how could same Dassault offer India 126 Rafales with all the weapons, support and ToT for $20 billion?! It couldn't and it was not planning on it. That was simply a ruse to suck India in and eliminate any competition. <br />So, let's not even compare these two deals. The first one was no go and hence not signed for long time. The second one is what was realistic and signed by India under Modi.<br /><br />To people who hate private sector getting any share of government spending: that's how Dassault (a private company) is leader in aerospace. Add to that list Boeing, Lockheed, Colt, General Atomics, GDS, UT.....DJ100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-6355900693981675352017-11-22T04:28:53.896-08:002017-11-22T04:28:53.896-08:00With the brahmos the sokhoi becomes a potent defen...With the brahmos the sokhoi becomes a potent defensive option<br /><br /><br />Will we ignore their proven capabilty for expensive options from the westVikram_prasadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06198432511981448264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-85991165890137011522017-11-19T01:34:25.945-08:002017-11-19T01:34:25.945-08:00Does it make sense strategically, to buy 36 fighte...Does it make sense strategically, to buy 36 fighters? I mean from logistics and maintenance it doesn't. But maybe it is that few excellent fighters to fill the gap? Your view sir?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-19965563461014168852017-11-19T01:19:56.107-08:002017-11-19T01:19:56.107-08:00ISIT PRICE ESCALATION , INDIAN ADDITIONAL REQUIREM...ISIT PRICE ESCALATION , INDIAN ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS , UPGRADED WEAPONS TRAINING AND SIMULATORS ,NEW NUCLEAR HARDENED BASES SPARES ASSURANCE AND FLEET READINESS OF 75% , BOTH DEALS MUST BE EXPLAINED IN A TABULTED FORM . MADAM BEING A PRICE WATERHOUSE MEMBER WILL KNOW THE DETAILS PUT THEM IN PUBLIC AND COME CLEAN OR THE CONGRESS WILL MAKE THE PEOPLE AND MASSES BELIEVE FOR VOTE BANK POLITICS 15000 TO 20000 CRORES HAVE BEEN SKIMMED .THE TIME TO WALK THE TALK IS NOW .ashokhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07931840450458013465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-48956862887242971542017-11-18T23:23:08.142-08:002017-11-18T23:23:08.142-08:00No one gives TOT No one gives TOT Sohom Devhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16199102443439300495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-30397580350022288582017-11-18T21:55:33.492-08:002017-11-18T21:55:33.492-08:00Both AK Antony and Parrikar are better interns of ...Both AK Antony and Parrikar are better interns of geniunity than Nirmala. Parrikar is technically sound person and took some indigenous initiatives like Tejas A1. Honestly it is open secret that BJP and Modi Government backing some industrialist and we all know who is going to benefit from this rafale and ongoing Warship deal with Russia <br />Indianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01575085635980232850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-7371354507831914832017-11-18T18:38:21.175-08:002017-11-18T18:38:21.175-08:00The 'accessories' don't matter when yo...The 'accessories' don't matter when you are building over 100 Rafalles in India with complete transfer of technology. Radar etc. could have been purchased or built later. Modi killed his own Make In India by trying to pay back Anil Ambani so that he can demand more funds for coming elections. Lifeisbetterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01643427008073987964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-17314059750679575622017-11-18T18:01:29.148-08:002017-11-18T18:01:29.148-08:00The real game lies here ------ 'However, she w...The real game lies here ------ 'However, she was unable to address media queries about how much the government was paying for 36 Rafales, compared to what the UPA government had negotiated.“We will give you the figures that you want”, said Sitharaman, directing the query to the defence secretary. However, he did not have the figures either'.------ Rest is all smoke and mirrors.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-30312809906123621452017-11-18T16:22:56.484-08:002017-11-18T16:22:56.484-08:00I guess everyone left out the inflation part. More...I guess everyone left out the inflation part. Moreover , when maintenance for five years and performance-based logistics costs are added , there is cost escalation similar to the C-17 fleet we have in our service.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-5540274598052556612017-11-18T16:21:39.442-08:002017-11-18T16:21:39.442-08:00I guess everyone left out the inflation part. More...I guess everyone left out the inflation part. Moreover , when maintenance for five years and performance-based logistics costs are added , there is cost escalation similar to the C-17 fleet we have in our service. I guess the author have selective amnesia.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-12699377616152859262017-11-18T10:42:34.601-08:002017-11-18T10:42:34.601-08:00PAID TOO MUCH FOR RAFALE, CORRUPT BJPPAID TOO MUCH FOR RAFALE, CORRUPT BJPAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-87220751067360573312017-11-18T09:40:25.365-08:002017-11-18T09:40:25.365-08:00UNLESS THE BJP EXPLAINS THE DIFFERNCE IN DETAIL OF...UNLESS THE BJP EXPLAINS THE DIFFERNCE IN DETAIL OF THE PRICE OF TWO DEALS AND ENHANCEMENTS OVER THE 126 RAFALE PURCHASE IT WILL BE AN ALBATROSS ROUND ITS NECK LIKE THE BOFFERS LED TO CONGRESS AND RAJIV GANDHIS DOWNFALL. FOR ITS OWN GOOD OIT MUST COME OUT CLEAN AND EXPLAIN THE INCREASE FROM 714 CRORES TO 1616 CRORES PER AIRCRAFT .ashokhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07931840450458013465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-39396961750257616972017-11-18T09:03:40.050-08:002017-11-18T09:03:40.050-08:00What is it that sukhoi cant do. Cost benefit analy...What is it that sukhoi cant do. Cost benefit analysis must be done wrt rafale.<br /><br />F35 also becomes a stealth option.China will definitely provide them to pakistan in five yearsVikram_prasadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06198432511981448264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-40157214130592838052017-11-17T21:59:33.781-08:002017-11-17T21:59:33.781-08:00Since 2011 when the Rafale deal was about to be an...Since 2011 when the Rafale deal was about to be announced we had pointed out the mind-boggling number of mistakes in the specifications quoted in RFP (all prehistoric MiL Stds were being quoted) and the huge difference in current technologies. It was evident that Dassault was going to take us for a royal ride. Both Antony and Parrikar would have avoided signing this deal. Now Nirmala has been made a scapegoat to fight out a deal which is clealrly meant to help you know whom Industrialist.Dr Vasanthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00264763983035083426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-70424637894306524402017-11-17T09:34:00.704-08:002017-11-17T09:34:00.704-08:00Dear Ajay Shukla, Can you please point out to the ...Dear Ajay Shukla, Can you please point out to the EXACT differences between Original UPA Deal and Modi's Deal?<br /><br />BJP supporters say we are getting a lot more in new deal, like missiles, HMDS, Radars and what not. Do you have a list of Exact hardware, Technology and Services (like maintenance etc) we were going to get in Both deals? Along with respective cost of each Item? That would enable us to compare both the deals.<br />It's becoming clear with every day that Rafale Deal is a crony-capitalistic Scam, but it would be better to have all the numbers so that Propaganda can be fought better.GASChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16768917741162745831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-47794799937090181452017-11-17T09:29:40.586-08:002017-11-17T09:29:40.586-08:00'In fact, between 2013-14, UPA defence ministe...'In fact, between 2013-14, UPA defence minister, AK Antony, had repeatedly made clear his deep reservations over the Rafale procurement, telling close associates that he was never going to sign it.' Were you among the close associates?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com