tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post1513281017770541028..comments2024-03-23T09:25:42.029-07:00Comments on Broadsword by Ajai Shukla - Strategy. Economics. Defence.: Navy finds defects in Scorpene submarine; one more year of delayBroadswordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13076780076240598482noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-50070867430146667082019-07-06T07:45:04.109-07:002019-07-06T07:45:04.109-07:002x better than Columbia class usa submarine and 3x...2x better than Columbia class usa submarine and 3x better than husky class russian submarine say ssgn (SSN+SSBN) with Naval reactor on LEU FUEL given with new Combat Management System told and all technologies including dive depth much below depth of Columbia and husky Class and compatible tonnage of 16800 and 19700 tons compared to columbia class 20800 ton given along with MiRV warheads for Agni-3,4,5 serires of missiles (can be simulated for K-4, 5, 6 sereis of missiles) and all electric propulsion given. Similarly two steels of HY 163 and HY 178 already given for that. Also steel better than non-metallic German Type-212 and Soryu Hull and High end AIP+DRDO AIO combined tech for SSKs better than German, Swedish and Japanese given so also some other systems told for achieving 700 metres depth plus say much better than German Submarines or Soryu or other existing nuclear subrmarines. MaRV indicated the theory only.Sandeep Guptanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-46097948419215608922019-06-16T21:40:20.147-07:002019-06-16T21:40:20.147-07:00a very large amount of mazdock work is offloaded t...a very large amount of mazdock work is offloaded to contractors who employ cheap bangldeshi labour workers . technicians .coupled with poor quality control , and poor manufacturing by indian industry using machines manufactured in 1970 to 2000 , the end product kalveri was bound to be built to unsatisfactory standards . naval group must be held accountable and these garuntee defects must be eliminated by the mazdocks or paymenyts cut to the naval group and contractors for shoddy work . new genration 5th and 7th gen cnc machines must be only allowed for fine accouracy together with laser and other latest tehniques .isi infilteration with other hostile foreign agencies sabotaging defence projects must be looked into .leo-7https://www.blogger.com/profile/09842587484169996189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-23032174388655674922019-06-15T20:48:35.055-07:002019-06-15T20:48:35.055-07:00NSR says ---
German-origin HDW 877 EKM boats (cal...NSR says ---<br /><br />German-origin HDW 877 EKM boats (called the Sindhughosh-class)<br /><br />"IT SHOULD BE RUSSIAN ORIGIN KILO CLASS"<br /><br />Why there is no official statement in regular news?<br /><br />Too bad for India... I am sure France and Naval Systems DCNS will blame India, MDL, its workers for shoddy workmanship...<br /><br />I doo not think India will ever build these boats on their own … I am not sure the TOT has been done to India for it to build …<br /><br />This is the sad state of Indian defense...<br /><br />Russian Kilo class is one of the quietest and is called Blackhole...<br />They mount the engines on rubber mounts so all the vibration is absorbed and not transmitted to sea so making it very difficult to detect it...<br /><br />Vietnam ordered 6 Kilo class boats for $1.8 billions... Good for them...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-51942363784543829382019-06-15T19:28:26.941-07:002019-06-15T19:28:26.941-07:00Diesel engine subs are supposed to be more quiet t...Diesel engine subs are supposed to be more quiet than nuclear.<br /><br />If French tech absorbtion is poor...it shows poor skillset under make in india.<br /><br />REMEMBER RAFALE HAL QUALITY CERTIFICATE??Vikram_prasadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06198432511981448264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-76038613327117491042019-06-15T12:17:53.795-07:002019-06-15T12:17:53.795-07:00Sir
Refer to penultimate paragraph,
Ghosh is Russ...Sir<br />Refer to penultimate paragraph, <br />Ghosh is Russian & Shishumar is German.<br />Regards.Prahladnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-73438609477669020952019-06-15T07:37:27.977-07:002019-06-15T07:37:27.977-07:00ajai sir
correct the misakes
its not
German-ori...ajai sir<br /><br />correct the misakes<br /><br />its not<br /><br />German-origin HDW 877 EKM boats (called the Sindhughosh-class); and nine 10-20 year-old, Russian-origin Kilo class Type 209 vessels (called the Shishumar class).<br /><br />but actually<br /><br />German-origin HDW Type 209 vessels (called the Shishumar class) and nine 10-20 year-old, Russian-origin Kilo class 877 EKM boats (called the Sindhughosh-class).<br /><br />hope you do it<br /><br />joydeep ghosh<br /><br />joydeep ghoshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00038225081192821456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-12677854723875952192019-06-15T06:13:10.399-07:002019-06-15T06:13:10.399-07:00This is why - Involve the private sector in making...This is why - Involve the private sector in making warships.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-39278478866366650522019-06-15T06:04:12.421-07:002019-06-15T06:04:12.421-07:00Is this DUE to our MAKE IN INDIA. QUALITY ASSURANC...Is this DUE to our MAKE IN INDIA. QUALITY ASSURANCE WRT PROPELLER IS REASON FOR NOISE.Vikram_prasadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06198432511981448264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-48840382708883202392019-06-15T03:29:51.301-07:002019-06-15T03:29:51.301-07:00You have the names and class of the submarines wr...You have the names and class of the submarines wrong.<br />Please check : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_submarines_of_the_Indian_Navy<br /><br />Zero credibility for this material esp coming from a person who supposedly wore uniform .<br />Not the first you are making mistake.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-54192592517443343202019-06-15T03:15:32.241-07:002019-06-15T03:15:32.241-07:00The Navy's submarine acquisition program seems...The Navy's submarine acquisition program seems jinxed. This latest problem comes after the leak of sensitive technical details about the Scorpenes, exposed by a Australian newspaper. This does not augur well for the next program to build conventional subs in India, the P75I. <br /><br />Isn't it about time we dropped this piecemeal, stumbling approach of spending decades trying to source foreign submarine designs, only to build a measly 4-6 units in India at exorbitant cost, interminable delay and compromised fighting capability? If India can build its own nuclear boats then why can it not develop and build an indigenous conventional submarine, a design we can control and improve over time, build in large numbers without concern about leaked data and so forth? Several of the systems that would go onto such a sub are already available in India. The Brahmos anti-ship missile, in future the Nirbhay land-attack missile, the Varunastra torpedo, the USHUS and Panchendriya sonars can be modified, the hull and quieting can be developed utilizing experience gained from the Arihant program and so on. What we lack in terms of engines, periscopes and batter technology can be sourced from overseas. The manufacturing experience that MDL has hopefully gained from the Scorpene can be put to use. For a navy that designs and builds its own surface combatants including destroyers and aircraft carriers, as well as SSBNs in India, it is curious why the IN sticks to this absurd approach when it comes to conventional subs.<br /><br />Building just 6 Scorpenes and another 6 P75Is is not going to suffice. Even the Pak Navy is to soon have 8 modern Chinese boats and the Bangladesh Navy 2, against India's projected 12. India needs a force of around 24 conventional boats and another 12 nuclear attach boats in addition to the SSBNs to wield a credible offensive capability and keep the Chinese and Pak navies at bay. Such numbers can only come from a concerted indigenous program that we are capable of.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com