Wednesday, 4 August 2010

Readers' Quiz No 3: what might this be?

It is easy to figure out what this is in generic terms. So readers are invited to guess the identity of this piece of equipment in more specific terms. A Gold Star for the most detailed (and correct) identification.

101 comments:

Anonymous said...

Well there is a small shaped charge in front and a bigger shaped charge in the back -- so it is a tandem warhead for an anti-tank weapon.

Since I dont see a rocket motor, it is probably air dropped or artillery launched.

Anonymous said...

This is a smart bomb!!

Ok, we want F-INSAS pic in the background of MSMC in the pic....

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_zUe7sq7m3h0/TFDgmH8D-6I/AAAAAAAABHk/RIpJ8jfy9po/s1600/Modern+Sub-Machine+Carbine.jpg

pls... pls... pls...

Anonymous said...

TAKSHAK ADvance experimental torpedo

Anonymous said...

Nag?

Anonymous said...

TV guided bomb....

3rd ~ EyE said...

Looks like Nag's Cross Section

ROHIT KUMAR said...

LASER GUIDED BOMB ( AIR TO SURFACE BOMB )

Ra said...

Advanced Experimental Torpedo lightweight

Sid said...

NAG ATGM

fighterclass said...

either the NSTL torpedo or a marine mine.

Anonymous said...

to me it looks like a prototype model for a submarine hull

Anonymous said...

warhead of Nag missile

Anonymous said...

nag anti tank missile

Anonymous said...

Nag ATGM?

Anonymous said...

since u r in pune....it should be drdo originated.

doubleShaped charge...anti tank tandem warhead.

infra red sensor....air dropped.but since u r in pune..so artillery launched.

ankit said...

it is infrared seeker arrangement of NAG missle probably

Anonymous said...

what is the use of Blast Cum Earth Shock warhead ??

Anonymous said...

Torpedo Advanced Light

ankit said...

it is infrared seeker arrangement of probably NAG missle.

taman said...

This cant be tropedo...no fins for cutting water...

Looks like a smart bomb developed by drdo

Sanket Gokhale said...

Tandem warhead for Nag missile. The smaller shape charge in front makes initial damage and the big shape charge at back pierce inside and explodes.

Broadsword said...

QUIZ NO.3 STATUS REPORT: NOT A SINGLE CORRECT ANSWER SO FAR...

Anonymous said...

NAG Tandem warhead

Anonymous said...

may be a failed drdo attempt to make a sensor fused munition.

Anonymous said...

laser guided shell for 155mm howitzers

Sabertooth said...

My guess is its the warhead of the NAG missile or HELINA missile. Looks like a MMW version.

But the only irking point is NAG is a tandem warhead missile, but if it had both warhead in front of the motor, then does it have a triple tandem warhead???

Interesting quiz though !!

Anonymous said...

looking like Brahmos Missile

MRUGEN said...

It is a Towed Array Sonar Being Developed By DRDO For NAVY.

Anonymous said...

It seems to be an underwater Mine

Ra said...

Perhaps a smoke bomb.

Anonymous said...

Man portable 'Javelin' missile

Anonymous said...

i want to say its a nuclear warhead but i dont think they wud display tht :P

Dilemma said...

Looks like a LDP (Laser Designator Pod) or a Reconnaissance Pod.

Anonymous said...

HELINA ???
-Raj

Anonymous said...

Is it a miniature nuclear warhead by any chance?

Anonymous said...

a bunker buster maybe

Anonymous said...

Type of Pinaka rocket?

Anonymous said...

Depth Charge?

Sparsh said...

Col. Shukla,

My guess: This is the front section of the semi-active laser homing GLCM.

On that note, what is the status of this program? I remember mock-ups being displayed at DefExpo and AeroIndia but other than nothing else has emerged.

Anonymous said...

Simple, nuclear bomb - rear end in the core.

Daanish said...

Brahmos anti shipping warhead.

Daanish said...

sorry scratch that, there are 2 HEAT rounds obviously this design is oriented towards things with multiple layered armour, definately not nag that has a fiberglass body.

Euromissile MILAN. final answer lock kardiya jai.

Daanish said...

don't really know too thin on the hull to be a torpedo, nag is fiberglass, anti Armour config. points to either a new development or warhead obscured by bodywork, I mean there are plenty of possibilities like, sea eagle, Martel. too big to be anti tank from infantry point of view heavy mounted at gm of some kind or anti shipping.

fighterclass said...

ajai has taken it personally to fox us at least once ! :D

let me have a couple more stab then

a) electronic pod like the siva or r118 meant to be carried by fighters

b) cut away of the new drdo LGB

Anonymous said...

I see feed horns and waveguides . Maybe a sonobuoy or the seeker of a torpedo ?

Anonymous said...

Nirubhay

kan said...

It is the warhead cross-section of Milan-2 Anti-tank missile.

kan said...

Warhead cross-section of Milan anti-tank missile.

Anonymous said...

Anything to do with Shaurya?

Rahul said...

It is front section(close to 1/4th of total length) of Helina or and Nag. Tandem warhead section is colored in red & yellow and seeker is in red.

Anonymous said...

Three parts rivetted together.
Bottom part appears to be HE for initial propulsion.

Second, part appers to be something like filled with secondary charge or limitor for actuation of the base charge.

No nose cone or distance limitor Hence traditinal HEAT could be ruled out.

Appears to be tendem warhead for tank gun ??

May be HESH or may be HEAT.

Something which will create double impact such as arty bomb or a bomblet for bunker brusting, craters, holes on the runway, etc.

Anonymous said...

It's a Torpedo!!

Broadsword said...

THERE ARE A COUPLE OF VERY INTELLIGENT GUESSES THAT HAVE COME SOMEWHAT CLOSE TO THE ANSWER... BUT NOBODY HAS GOT THE ANSWER YET!

TRY SOME MORE....

sandeep said...

sonar, air dropped from P-8I's procured from US

Praveen said...

It's a buddy refueling system for fighter planes or a pod holding drag schute.

Ra said...

New design of Napalm bomb.

Anonymous said...

Laser Designator used on aircrafts?
--
Mihir

Anonymous said...

Ok I throw my Chawani again :

The Nose is semi circular shape with PIBD Fuse, may be.
The fitment inside is ventury assembly
Circular cut near nose could be for rotating band.

Copper liner is not visible but perhaps can be fitted in the front section along the walls to form a slug

HE composition is to be filled

But what is that HE ventury seprately iside the tube?

The second section is low pressure chamber.

Third and bottom section is propellant charge chamber.

Base plug and closing cap could be inserted or may exist within..

It a High Explosive dual purpose catridge either for Carl Gustav or a tank gun (HPDP) or HESH round.

Is it an ammunition for Arjun?

May be I am focussing on your interest and expertise

Anonymous said...

Brahmos stuff?

Anonymous said...

Is this a Brahmos Air to Air Version. or DRDO Man Portable submarine for Marine Commandos.

Anonymous said...

A war head for smerch/ pinaka MBRL Missiles?
-Raj

Anonymous said...

this is advance projectile for 155mm gun design and develop by OFAJ nagpur

harishankar said...

Looks like the warhead of a Submarine launched Ballistic missile. Agni-3SL mock up...

Rishi Singh said...

Desi Nuclear bomb..

Anonymous said...

Maybe an anti submarine rocket (RBU kind of warhead) or intelligent underwater mine warhead me thinks

joydeep ghosh said...

Inside of Nag missile

or

NSTL lightweight torpedo

Daanish said...

Ok lets see what we have here it is definitely guided in the terminal phase so rules out ballistic weapons,
it is too thin/small to be a submarine torpedo, warhead section.

KLUB class cruise missile warhead possibly if this object fits the dimensions of a 533mm tube or close to that.

definitely not man portable as the object in question will require a motor strapped on to it.

Not sensor fused as you need may of those and they are generally a single HEAT round.

not air to air as those have continuous expanding rod warheads..

Not an anti submarine mortar round as those are pure blast and are not needed with directional attack.

what its role can be guessed it has to work against heavy armour,
only 2 things now a days have that warships and tanks.
that narrows it down. Heavy antitank missile so not on fast jets, close air support role helicopter borne atgm, maybe Russian or as yet undisclosed drdo project. Unlikely those are released with fanfare and not publicly released on blog sites.

The tube in the front is disturbing, it would degrade radar performance unless it is a intended physical aperture

taper in the mid section indicates that there is some constraint, physical package. needed to fit warhead bus, or is it because of the mode in which this is to operate. perhaps dictated by aerodynamics.

there was talk of India getting hellfire missiles, could we have managed to get out drdo to manufacture its warhead.

So with all these in consideration, i have no definite answer but just that it is either an anti tank missile or anti ship missile.

Kaushik said...

Hello Mr. Shukla:

I will hazard a couple of guesses - dunking sonar or towed torpedo decoy.

Anonymous said...

Looks more like a canister launched missile, for now we know only of sagarika or is it K15.

Anonymous said...

Torpedo

Anonymous said...

I don't want to keep guessing , but it has features of a air launched missile as there are two charges there.

Looks more like the Nag, Helina is the best guess, however can't say for sure only for the reason that the top of the missile does not seem to have a transparent head, but it looks so close.

Anonymous said...

Ok. It is the MMW radar warhead for the Nag . NOT the current IR seeker based Nag warhead.

taman said...

Ajai,
It has a seeker at the front and warheads also.
Could it be the new HELINA missile with infra red seeker.

Anonymous said...

Thats a inflight refueling probe model rather crude one....

Anonymous said...

Laser Proximity Fuse in a warhead?

Anonymous said...

LAHAT tank launched missile

Sanket Gokhale said...

A warhead for PINAKA missile system. And the two visible shape charges may be for Anti-Armor duties???

Anonymous said...

bunker buster warhead?

Anonymous said...

Anti Submarine Rocket on the lines of 90R which are launched from RBU 6000...and are manufactured by L&T.

Dhirendra Verma said...

drdo assembled anti tank missile INVAR without fins

abhik said...

If it isn't the seeker-warhead combination of the nag/helina, then my guess would be that it is seeker-warhead cutout of the DRDO developed tank gun launched laser guided missile(sorry I dont know its exact name, but I still qualify for the gold star right?); something like the Israeli LAHAT , which was displayed routinely in expos since forever.

Anonymous said...

Its an anti-submarine mine.

Where is the pics of F-INSAS?? pls...

The Warrior Buddha said...

It clearly has a tandem warhead and a seeker maybe - depending on how closely the mockup resembles the real thing.. but somehow it still doesn't seem to suggest its a NAG's cross-section...

I also can't figure out how it can be a torpedo warhead - the shape and the proportions don't look right even for the small air-launched ones..
I'm also unsure if they use tandem warheads in torpedoes (enlighten me anyone?!)

For sure its NOT a Pinaka or Smerch! Wrong looks, wrong "cross section"..
(Pinaka itself can be "MIRVed", sort of..)

Brahmos, well honestly I have no idea about that one..



I will put my money on it being a Prithvi MIRV "bomblet".
(Or is it the incendiary??!)

But I don't know why it looks something of a MIRV bunker-buster (bomb) or anti-tank munition to me! :-o
Maybe the "bomblet" has a bunker-buster or anti-tank variant as well??!

So final answer - a Prithvi MIRV "bomblet" submunition..

Parag said...

Thats a MIRV for Agni OPr Prithvi Missiles.

Broadsword said...

First Tiny Star for Anonymous 10:25

Small Brownie point for Daanish for his reasoning, even though it did not lead to the correct answer.

Medium Star for Anonymous 16:59... since this is very similar to a LAHAT.

And the BIG GOLD STAR goes to.... ABHIK.

It is the ATGM that will be fired from the Arjun tank gun.

Yeah!

taman said...

Hi Ajai,
Thts GR888888!!! it was terrific quiz series u are doing...i luv it.

Can you please give a little details abt this baby....is it NAG based? is it New developement? whts is its status? whts its name?

abhik said...

Yeipee!
Would be nice if you could give an update on the program, cos it has been under development for some time now I reckon, also may be they could consider a man portable version?

Anonymous said...

Mashallah, what am I hearing. DRDO made Anti-tank weaponry for the Arjun tank. What's the mizzile called? Gandiva is already taken.

Anonymous said...

Anonyous with the medium start:
Next quiz plz

Anonymous said...

Really? DRDO is making this?

Ra said...

Excellent Quiz.

Will this ATGM will need to be wrapped in the latest newspaper before firing from the Arjun tank gun.

Rahul said...

Falling in love with this refreshing all new Broadsword.

Thanks Ajai Sir.

Requesting Quiz No.4

Krish said...

Ajai,

I couldn't believe it is not NAG ATGM front portion. Are you for sure it is CLGM. Can there be pics as displayed instead of some cutouts of this missile.

Krish said...

Contours of this pic exactly matches to that of NAG ATGM. Both looks alike ?

Anonymous said...

give some details about this ATGM and other projects.

thanks.

AK said...

A “totally new missile,” called Agni II – is to be tested in September from the Wheeler Island, off the Orissa coast.

Developed by the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), Agni II – has two stages and both are powered by solid propellants. “It has several advanced technologies,” sources in the DRDO said.


http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article553723.ece

vatsal said...

Is it CLGM that will be operational for arjun's use.

It could be INVAR but i think that was for T90s use

Karthik Soundarajan said...

Its the guidance system of Nag missile the center has the laser gyro? or looks similar to an Atomic bomb, where there are charges on either side while enriched uranium disks are placed in the center.

NG said...

Is it one of the anti-submarine missiles used on the Ka-28 helo?

Anonymous said...

javelin atgm

Anonymous said...

cant be a missile it has no fins